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Tenant -partner moves in-New agreement

I am interested in feedback/thoughts  from others on following situation .
have a  reasonable sole tenant . Without advising us in advance has just moved partner into the property citing CV issues and two can live cheaper than one.
wants her partner on tenancy agreement ,so we need  new tenancy agreement-which of course under todays 'rules' landlord has  to pay for .(i assume thats the case even if a modification requested by tenant )
situation not of our doing /choice yet we have to pay for the agreement .
does not seem quite right/fair  to me .
My gut feel is 'life's a !!!!!!' and we will just have to swallow it -but i am interested if others think there is an alternative 'route'.
again-ideally one would also be considering a rent increase alongside this -but in todays climate that would go down like a lead balloon, and not allowed anyway -forbearance and all of that-'innit together'  etc 
one feels one is being taken advantage of here -but  interested in views of others  and what others may do in similar circumstances 

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  • Slithery
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    marc3 said:
    wants her partner on tenancy agreement ,so we need  new tenancy agreement
    No, you don't. You don't have to agree to an alteration to the tenancy.
  • anselld
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    You can charge £50 for a contract change.
    The alternative is not to change the contract.  It is not particularly necessary.
  • zagubov
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    I can't think of any advantage to you to do such a thing, particularly if you're not getting double the rent. I suspect your gut feeling is misleading you.
    I don't understand why you should undertake any landlord-tenant relationship with this unknown person.

    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • greatcrested
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    * You don't need a new agreement. Though you and the tenant(s) might choose to have one.
    * You could write agreeing the partner is a Permitted Occupier. (though there are advantages to you to having two joint and several tenants).
    * or amend the existing tenancy (eg via an assignment) and charge the tenant(s) £50 (or reasonable costs incurred if higher).
    * why on earth does this justify a rent increase? You're not altering what you offer in return are you? (or are you installing an ensuite for the partner...?)



  • Comms69
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    marc3 said:
    I am interested in feedback/thoughts  from others on following situation .
    have a  reasonable sole tenant . Without advising us in advance has just moved partner into the property citing CV issues and two can live cheaper than one.
    wants her partner on tenancy agreement ,so we need  new tenancy agreement-which of course under todays 'rules' landlord has  to pay for .(i assume thats the case even if a modification requested by tenant )
    situation not of our doing /choice yet we have to pay for the agreement .
    does not seem quite right/fair  to me .
    My gut feel is 'life's a !!!!!!' and we will just have to swallow it -but i am interested if others think there is an alternative 'route'.
    again-ideally one would also be considering a rent increase alongside this -but in todays climate that would go down like a lead balloon, and not allowed anyway -forbearance and all of that-'innit together'  etc 
    one feels one is being taken advantage of here -but  interested in views of others  and what others may do in similar circumstances 

    You can just refuse you know? - a new agreement that is. A tenant has the authority to move a partner in; doesn’t need to tell you. 

    Why would there be a rent increase??!!


  • marc3
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    thank you for your replies .
    censensus seems to be -don't get too bothered about a new agreement .
    i suppose i just wonder what would the situation be, if existing tenant dies has moved a partner in ,partner not on tenancy agreement-but clearly living there ,and has no intention of paying any rent.
    effectively squatting -and i suspect as landlord ,would have one helluva job and length of time getting them out of the property  .

  • greatcrested
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    Firstly, death of a tenant does not end a tenancy. The deceased's Estate takes over responsibility for rent etc until the tenancy ends. In most cases, once the Executers have cleared the property they would request an Early Surrender or serve notice as applicable, and most LLs would accept this.
    Evicting a non tenant, where no tenancy exists, is not nearly as hard or lengthy as evicting a tenant.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    marc3 said:
    thank you for your replies .
    censensus seems to be -don't get too bothered about a new agreement .
    i suppose i just wonder what would the situation be, if existing tenant dies has moved a partner in ,partner not on tenancy agreement-but clearly living there ,and has no intention of paying any rent.
    effectively squatting -and i suspect as landlord ,would have one helluva job and length of time getting them out of the property  .

    Death has no bearing on a tenancy agreement, it continues under the estate. 
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