VW Emissions Claims

ISASwitcher

I've been seeing ads for claiming compensation from VW for alleged rigging of emissions data. I had 2 Audis that qualified but thought the deadline to bring a claim had passed. Does anyone know if I can still claim, and if so, how? Thanks.

m0bov

Quantify your losses?

unforeseen

They've won the first stage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52184229

DoaM

The first stage seeming to be a confirmation that defeat devices were fitted ... something everyone already knew. Still a long way to go.

unforeseen

People may have known but to move forward they needed a legal decision that they were

The_Rainmaker

Did you own the Audi's or were they on PCP or Lease?

Can you quantify your losses?

born_again

unforeseen said:

They've won the first stage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52184229

Seems to me. That the only losers were the government and loss of exercise duty (lower emissions) Owners were actually better off due to this. Not seen any reduction in 2nd hand values either.

Johno100

born_again said:

unforeseen said:

They've won the first stage
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52184229

Seems to me. That the only losers were the government and loss of exercise duty (lower emissions) Owners were actually better off due to this. Not seen any reduction in 2nd hand values either.

Yes, it is notable that nowhere in that article does it say what exactly they are seeking 'compensation' for. 

Manxman_in_exile

Shouldn't they all be paying additional excise duty to HMG because of the false emissions data?  I suppose they could then claim that back from VAG.

Ectophile

Manxman_in_exile said:

Shouldn't they all be paying additional excise duty to HMG because of the false emissions data?  I suppose they could then claim that back from VAG.

Maybe they should.  But they won't.  the official emission figures still stand.

The claim would be that the vehicle is less desirable on the second-hand market, and so worth less than it should be.  But I'm at a loss as to what anybody who leased a vehicle could reasonably claim for.

AdrianC

Remember - VAG are NOT accused of cheating European tests.

They were found to be in breach of the US tests. It's three years since VAG were found by a US court to have breached the US testing protocol, and fined nearly $3bn.

The US tests had far, far stricter NOx levels than the European tests - and that's what the defeat device was designed to bypass. There was no deliberate effect on CO, which is what the UK VED was based upon. The US tests explicitly barred such devices, the European tests didn't. The "defeat device" was NOT in breach of the testing protocol for the European tests. It may have been in breach of the spirit of the tests, but it was not in breach of the letter of the protocols. The tests have since been heavily overhauled, and the standards applicable at the time have been superceded.

Remember - VAG were about the only manufacturer to even attempt to sell diesels in the US, because the US tests didn't differentiate between petrol and diesel NOx emissions, making it almost impossible for diesels to pass. At the time (Euro5), European limits allowed diesels to emit 3x the NOx levels of petrols. US figures were around the same as the Euro petrol figures.