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  • Invi98
    Invi98 Posts: 14 Forumite
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    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    He left after 4 months that she left, technically he needed it to pay while he was there, no?
    Yes. That's correct.
    Not always easy to prove though - I've dealt with numerous council tax cases over the years (including to the valuation tribunal) and the problem in these cases is the you, in most cases, need to provide evidence of the 2 issues - 1) that she vacated and 2) he stayed. It's not the easiest argument to make. It can also descend in to an argument over legislation, depending on how the council handle it.

    What if I find him and i will try to speak with him to sign me a paper where it says on which date he left, or can i do this with the old landlord? Is yes it's a specific form?
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    Invi98 said:
    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    He left after 4 months that she left, technically he needed it to pay while he was there, no?
    Yes. That's correct.
    Not always easy to prove though - I've dealt with numerous council tax cases over the years (including to the valuation tribunal) and the problem in these cases is the you, in most cases, need to provide evidence of the 2 issues - 1) that she vacated and 2) he stayed. It's not the easiest argument to make. It can also descend in to an argument over legislation, depending on how the council handle it.

    What if I find him and i will try to speak with him to sign me a paper where it says on which date he left, or can i do this with the old landlord? Is yes it's a specific form?
    There's no specific requirement to submit the form in any particular manner - for my clients I tend to get a signed statement as far as possible.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Invi98
    Invi98 Posts: 14 Forumite
    10 Posts
    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    He left after 4 months that she left, technically he needed it to pay while he was there, no?
    Yes. That's correct.
    Not always easy to prove though - I've dealt with numerous council tax cases over the years (including to the valuation tribunal) and the problem in these cases is the you, in most cases, need to provide evidence of the 2 issues - 1) that she vacated and 2) he stayed. It's not the easiest argument to make. It can also descend in to an argument over legislation, depending on how the council handle it.

    What if I find him and i will try to speak with him to sign me a paper where it says on which date he left, or can i do this with the old landlord? Is yes it's a specific form?
    There's no specific requirement to submit the form in any particular manner - for my clients I tend to get a signed statement as far as possible.
    I can proof that she moved out, but one more concern, can i take a statement from the landlord right? That he left after couple months that she moved out

    Thank you.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Invi98 said:
    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    CIS said:
    Invi98 said:
    He left after 4 months that she left, technically he needed it to pay while he was there, no?
    Yes. That's correct.
    Not always easy to prove though - I've dealt with numerous council tax cases over the years (including to the valuation tribunal) and the problem in these cases is the you, in most cases, need to provide evidence of the 2 issues - 1) that she vacated and 2) he stayed. It's not the easiest argument to make. It can also descend in to an argument over legislation, depending on how the council handle it.

    What if I find him and i will try to speak with him to sign me a paper where it says on which date he left, or can i do this with the old landlord? Is yes it's a specific form?
    There's no specific requirement to submit the form in any particular manner - for my clients I tend to get a signed statement as far as possible.
    I can proof that she moved out, but one more concern, can i take a statement from the landlord right? That he left after couple months that she moved out

    Thank you.
    That can certainly be used in evidence.

    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Invi98
    Invi98 Posts: 14 Forumite
    10 Posts
    You help me a lot
    Thank you
  • es5595
    es5595 Posts: 385 Forumite
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    Also, if she’s still got any evidence of her correspondence with the landlord confirming when she moved out/the tenancy was going to be changed into just his name/court proceedings to get him out, anything would be useful to keep and hold onto for later. 
    Councils are lazy, if they think they can get it paid one way, they’ll do that! 
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    es5595 said:
    Also, if she’s still got any evidence of her correspondence with the landlord confirming when she moved out/the tenancy was going to be changed into just his name/court proceedings to get him out, anything would be useful to keep and hold onto for later. 
    Councils are lazy, if they think they can get it paid one way, they’ll do that! 
    - assuming there was a change of tenancy. A landlord can simply choose not to pursue the non resident tenant for rent; without changing the tenancy.
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