Furlough Scheme

gary83

looking at it a different way, if I was an employer (I’m not, all hypothetical) someone’s handed in their notice & left the company. Circumstances have changed for them and they want to be rehired to go immediately on furlough.

So I do that, they are back on my payroll but the government’s paying their wages although I have to apply and pay someone do the admin for that. Then the furlough scheme comes to an end, the government stops paying 80% of their wages, but my company doesn’t instantly recover. they’d already left anyway, I might have got someone to replace them already but now they’re on my payroll again. I have to pay 100% of their wages or go through the expense and red tape of making them redundant. How many companies are going to be in a rush to do that?

ntemp

uksaint70 said:

Good Afternoon, I watched the show last night and currently I am in the same position as a lady whos questioned was answered in regard to leaving her job, technically today is my last day with the firm. I emailed them this morning to ask about remploy as the job i was looking to go into was in a school, so currently as with alot of people no idea when this will start. I asked them if they could help me in regard to the current climate using the furlough scheme.
The email i got back stated as follows:

Unfortunately your leaving date was notified along with reason for leaving on the HMRC RTI system on 16th March. This means that they are already aware of your decision to resign.The accountant has advised that we would therefore remploying not continuing employment and doing that to furlough is against the rules as it can only be done if you were laid off because of the virus.

I am really sorry that this is not better news but my hands are tied by the HMRC system in this instance.

Is this correct as per Martins show last night, i'm sure its not, if so what can I do ?

My husband is in the same boat as already commented on another post, we have written to MP to question why the advice given by Martin Lewis and even HMRC themselves when we contacted them would be to go back to previous employer when this is surely expecting them to do something fraudulent. My husbands previous employer would not do it on the basis of the legalities now and going forward. He has said he hasn’t been given a legal directive to do this, yet it has been stated on responses on here and other advice given that this is what the government assumes will be done for people in this situation.

ntemp

InA said:

nick74 said:

That's not correct, the RTI system does not send a reason for leaving to HMRC and under the furlough rules there is no reason technically why your previous employer cannot put you back on their payroll system temporarily and then furlough you. However, that is entirely at their discretion and you cant force a previous employer to do it if they don't want to. 

This is a Job Retention Scheme for employers not an income protection scheme for workers. "Temporarily" adding a former employee back on payroll in order to claim a grant would likely be viewed as fraudulent.

I agree but this is what is being advised not just by Martin Lewis but HMRC themselves

andyrep909

ntemp said:

uksaint70 said:

Good Afternoon, I watched the show last night and currently I am in the same position as a lady whos questioned was answered in regard to leaving her job, technically today is my last day with the firm. I emailed them this morning to ask about remploy as the job i was looking to go into was in a school, so currently as with alot of people no idea when this will start. I asked them if they could help me in regard to the current climate using the furlough scheme.
The email i got back stated as follows:

Unfortunately your leaving date was notified along with reason for leaving on the HMRC RTI system on 16th March. This means that they are already aware of your decision to resign.The accountant has advised that we would therefore remploying not continuing employment and doing that to furlough is against the rules as it can only be done if you were laid off because of the virus.

I am really sorry that this is not better news but my hands are tied by the HMRC system in this instance.

Is this correct as per Martins show last night, i'm sure its not, if so what can I do ?

My husband is in the same boat as already commented on another post, we have written to MP to question why the advice given by Martin Lewis and even HMRC themselves when we contacted them would be to go back to previous employer when this is surely expecting them to do something fraudulent. My husbands previous employer would not do it on the basis of the legalities now and going forward. He has said he hasn’t been given a legal directive to do this, yet it has been stated on responses on here and other advice given that this is what the government assumes will be done for people in this situation.

Unless this is a legal  directive there is no way my previous employer would do this , and why on earth should they tbh ....