Will employer pay for Coronavirus self-isolation?

cheshirescat

Hi, I have just returned from holidaying overseas. At immigration the officer handed me a Coronavirus leaflet which advised me to "self-isolate" for the next 14 days. I asked him if it was required and he said it's an advisory from the government, whatever that is supposed to mean.

I feel absolutely fine and my employer doesn't pay for sick days so I can't really afford to stay at home. I am wary of talking to my employer about this as I'm on a zero-hour contract and my job isn't one that I can do from home. The manager might just stop giving me any hours for a few weeks, which would be a catastrophe.

Any ideas on what I should do?   

Dox

See https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51628524

cheshirescat

Thanks for that. As I thought, it doesn't look like there's any obligation to pay. Knowing my manager, he definitely feels no "strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment".

spadoosh

cheshirescat said:

Thanks for that. As I thought, it doesn't look like there's any obligation to pay. Knowing my manager, he definitely feels no "strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment".

This is a proper BS statement from ACAS. 

Your manager needs staff for the company to make money. With no or fewer staff there is no or fewer monies available. How do you expect them to pay you when youve not earned/saved them any money? Its like me saying you have a moral obligation to ensure your neighbour feels safe and secure in their house. Then a gang of 30 hoodlums comes up to their door trying to attack them. How do you feel about upholding that kind of moral obligation? 

What happens if the person who pays your wages has recently been on abroad and theyre are told to self isolate? How do you pay people when you dont have the person who pays people to pay them?

What happens when they pay you an average wage and in 6 months when all is back to normal you can pay back your moral obligation by working for free to make up the hours theypaid you for? You going to do that on a zero hour contracts for a boss you clearly have little regard for?

ReadingTim

Depends on where you've been - Beijing: maybe a good idea; Benidorm: probably a little OTT.  

Given you don't say where you've been, it sounds like you're taking the p!ss and hoping for an extra fortnight's holiday.  If you have been somewhere where there's a serious risk of catching it, you probably have other things to worry about.  

cheshirescat

Well, I have no problem going in to work tomorrow, perfectly happy to do that.

That is what I will have to do as I can't afford to go without pay for 2 weeks, irrespective of what the government says.

I just wanted to check if there's any financial support for people who have been asked to "self-isolate" and it's clear there isn't. It is what it is. 

cheshirescat

spadoosh said:

cheshirescat said:

Thanks for that. As I thought, it doesn't look like there's any obligation to pay. Knowing my manager, he definitely feels no "strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment".

This is a proper BS statement from ACAS. 
Your manager needs staff for the company to make money. With no or fewer staff there is no or fewer monies available. How do you expect them to pay you when youve not earned/saved them any money? Its like me saying you have a moral obligation to ensure your neighbour feels safe and secure in their house. Then a gang of 30 hoodlums comes up to their door trying to attack them. How do you feel about upholding that kind of moral obligation? 
What happens if the person who pays your wages has recently been on abroad and theyre are told to self isolate? How do you pay people when you dont have the person who pays people to pay them?

What happens when they pay you an average wage and in 6 months when all is back to normal you can pay back your moral obligation by working for free to make up the hours theypaid you for? You going to do that on a zero hour contracts for a boss you clearly have little regard for?

I don't understand why you are shouting at me? I fully agree with your opinion that this is BS, the quote was included because of how silly and lol it sounded to me.

And it isn't ACAS, it's the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.

Sea_Shell

Where have you returned from, specifically?

tickledpinx

You do what you need to do to make rent and put food on the table. It's all well and good for the government to say that you should self-isolate, they don't need to know about your financial circumstances.

In your place I would do the same. With a zero hour contract you can hardly afford to take the risk of being blacklisted temporarily.

spadoosh

cheshirescat said:

spadoosh said:

cheshirescat said:

Thanks for that. As I thought, it doesn't look like there's any obligation to pay. Knowing my manager, he definitely feels no "strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment".

This is a proper BS statement from ACAS. 
Your manager needs staff for the company to make money. With no or fewer staff there is no or fewer monies available. How do you expect them to pay you when youve not earned/saved them any money? Its like me saying you have a moral obligation to ensure your neighbour feels safe and secure in their house. Then a gang of 30 hoodlums comes up to their door trying to attack them. How do you feel about upholding that kind of moral obligation? 
What happens if the person who pays your wages has recently been on abroad and theyre are told to self isolate? How do you pay people when you dont have the person who pays people to pay them?

What happens when they pay you an average wage and in 6 months when all is back to normal you can pay back your moral obligation by working for free to make up the hours theypaid you for? You going to do that on a zero hour contracts for a boss you clearly have little regard for?

I don't understand why you are shouting at me? I fully agree with your opinion that this is BS, the quote was included because of how silly and lol it sounded to me.

And it isn't ACAS, it's the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.

No shouting, asking questions. There is nothing to suggest i am shouting at you. 

There is also nothing to suggest you thought it sounded silly and lol. Nothing. 

You can assume from my post and i cant take what youve actually written. C'mon? Help us out. 

Forgive me for misidentifying who made the comment. Ive been reading about the acas statement which the article began touching on. For fear of reading the same things again i chose not to read the whole article. Lets be honest though, it doesnt matter what either of them say, its still completely unrealistic. 

BelowTheLine

spadoosh said:

cheshirescat said:

spadoosh said:

cheshirescat said:

Thanks for that. As I thought, it doesn't look like there's any obligation to pay. Knowing my manager, he definitely feels no "strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment".

This is a proper BS statement from ACAS. 
Your manager needs staff for the company to make money. With no or fewer staff there is no or fewer monies available. How do you expect them to pay you when youve not earned/saved them any money? Its like me saying you have a moral obligation to ensure your neighbour feels safe and secure in their house. Then a gang of 30 hoodlums comes up to their door trying to attack them. How do you feel about upholding that kind of moral obligation? 
What happens if the person who pays your wages has recently been on abroad and theyre are told to self isolate? How do you pay people when you dont have the person who pays people to pay them?

What happens when they pay you an average wage and in 6 months when all is back to normal you can pay back your moral obligation by working for free to make up the hours theypaid you for? You going to do that on a zero hour contracts for a boss you clearly have little regard for?

I don't understand why you are shouting at me? I fully agree with your opinion that this is BS, the quote was included because of how silly and lol it sounded to me.

And it isn't ACAS, it's the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development.

No shouting, asking questions. There is nothing to suggest i am shouting at you. 

There is also nothing to suggest you thought it sounded silly and lol. Nothing. 

You can assume from my post and i cant take what youve actually written. C'mon? Help us out. 

To be fair, your post did come across to me like you were ranting at the OP.