Wood Burning Stove Install

Davesnave

Cisco001 said:

Don't bother installing.
Gov banning sales of coal at wet wood
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51581817

You don't own a wood burner.

ElephantBoy57

theonlywayisup said:

Anyone who uses wood will understand that the new regulations won't make a difference.  I would never use wet or unseasoned wood, it doesn't burn, it isn't efficient and it leaves more mess than you can imagine. 

It's just the Government using 'greenwash' to make people think they are doing something. Not sure they could do any more, although in some areas smoke from fires is unpleasant and unhealthy.

Davesnave

ElephantBoy57 said:

theonlywayisup said:

Anyone who uses wood will understand that the new regulations won't make a difference.  I would never use wet or unseasoned wood, it doesn't burn, it isn't efficient and it leaves more mess than you can imagine. 

It's just the Government using 'greenwash' to make people think they are doing something. Not sure they could do any more, although in some areas smoke from fires is unpleasant and unhealthy.

Of course they could do more. They could fund trading standards to do random checks on wood suppliers, paid for by a licencing scheme,  but yes, total publicity stunt at present and likely to remain so.

markin

I bet every time the council get a complaint you will be getting a knock on the door with them trying to trick their way in your home to test your wood or fine you based on meter reading from outside.

And a law just saying all wood sold must have instruction labels saying test moisture before burning would work, "or it will give you Cancer" 

Tucker

No one burns wet wood with half a brain but people buy it for less and season it themselves which is totally fine and this will prevent that for no legitimate reason.
Some laws are pretty pointless at achieving anything practical and this is one. 
On the subject of which stove, all installers seem to have favourites that they plug either because they are comfortable fitting them or get a good deal in terms of extra profit. 
I would recommend going to see it on display. 
We bought a rais. Not cheap but very good quality and you only fit a stove once so chose what you want, not what someone wants to sell you. 

phoebe1989seb

We chose a Charnwood C7 and a Dovre Vintage 50 after seeing both in our local showroom. The Dovre was not what we'd intended buying at all - had planned on getting a Chilli Penguin - but we fell in love with the Dovre, which was a great price, being ex-display 
We opted to get the Charnwood as a multifuel, but we've only ever used seasoned logs as we have our own supply......

ElephantBoy57

markin said:

I bet every time the council get a complaint you will be getting a knock on the door with them trying to trick their way in your home to test your wood or fine you based on meter reading from outside.

From the BBC "Sales of the two most polluting fuels will be phased out in England to help cut air pollution, the government says."
It is a ban in the sale, not burning the 'wet' wood.

robatwork

People who know about wood already know this...and "wet" needs a careful definition.
The commonly used number is 20% - anything at 20% or below is considered dry/seasoned and suitable for a wood burner. The misinformation has started already as although the legislation says 20% or below, the grauniad say 
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/21/coal-wet-wood-how-uk-restrictions-work

Everyone knows coal, but what is wet wood?
As the name suggests, this is a type of fuel – usually in the form of undried fuel logs – with a moisture content of at least 20%

which is disingenuous and incorrect. 20% is dry, not wet.

Indeed wood can be too dry, but that's a discussion for another day. Enjoy your fire.

Ectophile

robatwork said:

People who know about wood already know this...and "wet" needs a careful definition.
The commonly used number is 20% - anything at 20% or below is considered dry/seasoned and suitable for a wood burner. The misinformation has started already as although the legislation says 20% or below, the grauniad say 
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/21/coal-wet-wood-how-uk-restrictions-work

Everyone knows coal, but what is wet wood?
As the name suggests, this is a type of fuel – usually in the form of undried fuel logs – with a moisture content of at least 20%

which is disingenuous and incorrect. 20% is dry, not wet.

Indeed wood can be too dry, but that's a discussion for another day. Enjoy your fire.

In the manual for my Stovax stove, it tells me that I should only burn wood with a moisture content of less than 20%.  So they seem to consider 20% moisture content to be too wet to burn.