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  • Ganga
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    edited 12 February 2020 at 6:44PM
    Remember if you change the battery - earth off first then disconnect the live
                                                                  Live on first then connect the earth
    Do it this way and if your spanner touches anything metal on the car you will not burn yourself ( you cannot electricute yourself off a car battery ) but due to the high amps your spanner will get hot quicky.
  • Cap2019
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    edited 12 February 2020 at 7:30PM
    Ganga said: 
    Remember if you change the battery - earth off first then disconnect the live
                                                                  Live on first then connect the earth
    Do it this way and if your spanner touches anything metal on the car you will not burn yourself ( you cannot electricute yourself off a car battery ) but due to the high amps your spanner will get hot quicky.
    Thanks for this, appreciate the advice! I’m very happy changing batteries just need to figure out the memory saver tool, don’t want to stuff up the on board computer! looks like I just plug one end in to the OBD socket and the other into a different (my) car cigarette lighter! I’m sure it won’t be that simple though ..
  • Ectophile
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    Cap2019 said:
    Thanks for this, appreciate the advice! I’m very happy changing batteries just need to figure out the memory saver tool, don’t want to stuff up the on board computer! looks like I just plug one end in to the OBD socket and the other into a different (my) car cigarette lighter! I’m sure it won’t be that simple though ..
    On many cars, the cigarette lighter socket is disconnected when the engine is turned off.

    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • Cap2019
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    edited 13 February 2020 at 10:15AM
    Ectophile said:
    Cap2019 said:
    Thanks for this, appreciate the advice! I’m very happy changing batteries just need to figure out the memory saver tool, don’t want to stuff up the on board computer! looks like I just plug one end in to the OBD socket and the other into a different (my) car cigarette lighter! I’m sure it won’t be that simple though ..
    On many cars, the cigarette lighter socket is disconnected when the engine is turned off.

    I’m planning to use my cigarette lighter to power my girlfriends car (enough to maintain the computer)
  • forgotmyname
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    Cap2019 said:
    Ectophile said:
    Cap2019 said:
    Thanks for this, appreciate the advice! I’m very happy changing batteries just need to figure out the memory saver tool, don’t want to stuff up the on board computer! looks like I just plug one end in to the OBD socket and the other into a different (my) car cigarette lighter! I’m sure it won’t be that simple though ..
    On many cars, the cigarette lighter socket is disconnected when the engine is turned off.

    I’m planning to use my cigarette lighter to power my girlfriends car 
    Hope you have plenty of fuses then.  That fuse is probably 10 or 15amps. Not a lot really.With her battery weak and yours well charged the current could be far greater than the fuse or the wiring will allow.

    I tested that with 2 small Lipo batteries 1.5A 2S,  8.4v fully charged 7.2v Nominal.  One was fully charged
    and the other was at 6.8v.   Connecting them together gave a brief rush of 87amps. Dropping to
    30amps where the discharged pack swelled like a balloon and promptly failed. Negative leads
    solder connection failed it the wire fell out.

    You need to be careful connecting batteries.


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  • Cap2019
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    edited 13 February 2020 at 10:15AM
    Cap2019 said:
    Ectophile said:
    Cap2019 said:
    Thanks for this, appreciate the advice! I’m very happy changing batteries just need to figure out the memory saver tool, don’t want to stuff up the on board computer! looks like I just plug one end in to the OBD socket and the other into a different (my) car cigarette lighter! I’m sure it won’t be that simple though ..
    On many cars, the cigarette lighter socket is disconnected when the engine is turned off.

    I’m planning to use my cigarette lighter to power my girlfriends car 
    Hope you have plenty of fuses then.  That fuse is probably 10 or 15amps. Not a lot really.With her battery weak and yours well charged the current could be far greater than the fuse or the wiring will allow.

    I tested that with 2 small Lipo batteries 1.5A 2S,  8.4v fully charged 7.2v Nominal.  One was fully charged
    and the other was at 6.8v.   Connecting them together gave a brief rush of 87amps. Dropping to
    30amps where the discharged pack swelled like a balloon and promptly failed. Negative leads
    solder connection failed it the wire fell out.

    You need to be careful connecting batteries.


    Thanks for the warning, the memory saving device is something like this .. (take the space out for link)

    cablematic .com/en/products/obd-power-adapter-cable-to-preserve-the-cars-memory-saver-OB060/?gclid=CjwKCAiAhJTyBRAvEiwAln2qB8Zac4XP_SqqSrfNvrvi8AEG3nL3li7n10ttojSXECMTn1dVwj9q0xoCmNcQAvD_BwE

    Plugs into the OBD port of the car that you change the battery on and the cigarette lighter of a donor car. Widely used. Is this the connection you are referring to?
  • DoaM
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    edited 13 February 2020 at 1:36PM
  • m0bov
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    Just stick a new battery in, not worth the hassle.
  • almillar
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    Sorry, didn't realise I was being miserable, I just didn't want you getting stuck. I think one battery is past it, the one that struggled to start a car. You may get a few months out of it if it survives the winter, or it may not start your car tomorrow. You're taking a gamble (and yes, so have I!).
  • Cap2019
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    edited 13 February 2020 at 2:55PM
    almillar said:
    Sorry, didn't realise I was being miserable, I just didn't want you getting stuck. I think one battery is past it, the one that struggled to start a car. You may get a few months out of it if it survives the winter, or it may not start your car tomorrow. You're taking a gamble (and yes, so have I!).
    Sorry about my rudeness, I’m really not trying to cheap out on a new battery if that’s what is needed I just want to make sure I’m not replacing it if I don’t need to! I also didn’t realise what a faff it was to change the battery of a modern car with all their computers and such. It won’t be long before we can’t even top up the windscreen wash.  
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