MOT - Charged for new Disks AND Pads?

Hello,

I've been told that Discs and Pads fall below minimum spec.

But the disk has only shown as a minor?

Am i right in thinking new pads would sort the brakes out for now?

Repair immediately (major defects):
Front Registration plate does not conform to the specified requirements (0.1 (d))
Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (3.5 (a))
Nearside Front Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))
Front Brakes imbalanced across an axle (1.2.1 (b) (i))
Offside Front Lower Suspension arm ball joint excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Service brake efficiency below requirements (1.2.2 (a) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Front Inner Brake pad(s) wearing thin (1.1.13 (a) (ii))
Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

Comments

  • Hello,

    I've been told that Discs and Pads fall below minimum spec.

    But the disk has only shown as a minor?

    Am i right in thinking new pads would sort the brakes out for now?

    Repair immediately (major defects):
    Front Registration plate does not conform to the specified requirements (0.1 (d))
    Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (3.5 (a))
    Nearside Front Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))
    Front Brakes imbalanced across an axle (1.2.1 (b) (i))
    Offside Front Lower Suspension arm ball joint excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i))
    Service brake efficiency below requirements (1.2.2 (a) (i))
    Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
    Front Inner Brake pad(s) wearing thin (1.1.13 (a) (ii))
    Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
    Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))
    You're right, but it depends on the context. You've got a bunch of stuff needing doing. What's the plan for the car? Run it into the ground imminently on a minimum budget? Plan to run it for a few years yet? If the latter, get the disks done alongside everything else and get a few years value from them.
  • A_Lert
    A_Lert Posts: 609 Forumite
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    Repair immediately (major defects)...Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened


    Sounds like you need discs as well. Since they are major not dangerous defects, you're free to take it to another garage or fix it yourself.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    I've been told that Discs and Pads fall below minimum spec.

    But the disk has only shown as a minor?

    Am i right in thinking new pads would sort the brakes out for now?
    Putting new pads onto shagged old discs is a false economy. You know the discs need replacing sooner or later - and you always put new pads on with new discs.

    The MOT doesn't remove the wheels - they can see that the discs are knackered just looking through the wheel or behind it. With the wheel off, you'll probably find they're below minimum thickness.

    Marginal cost of putting new discs on is minimal - very little extra time while the pads are being done anyway.

    In short - they're your brakes. Stop penny-pinching!
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,609 Forumite
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    Hello,

    I've been told that Discs and Pads fall below minimum spec.

    But the disk has only shown as a minor?

    Am i right in thinking new pads would sort the brakes out for now?

    Repair immediately (major defects):
    Front Registration plate does not conform to the specified requirements (0.1 (d))
    Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (3.5 (a))
    Nearside Front Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))
    Front Brakes imbalanced across an axle (1.2.1 (b) (i))
    Offside Front Lower Suspension arm ball joint excessively worn (5.3.4 (a) (i))
    Service brake efficiency below requirements (1.2.2 (a) (i))
    Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
    Front Inner Brake pad(s) wearing thin (1.1.13 (a) (ii))
    Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (1.1.14 (a) (ii))
    Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))

    I'd say it will need discs, pads and either a caliper freed up or a new caliper.

    Had to do similar with my Insignia recently. Brake imbalance was caused by a sticking caliper. Discs and pads badly worn.

    Putting new pads on wont cure the imbalance and would be a false economy on old, worn discs.
  • sevenhills
    sevenhills Posts: 5,938 Forumite
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    I've been told that Discs and Pads fall below minimum spec.

    But the disk has only shown as a minor?

    Am i right in thinking new pads would sort the brakes out for now?

    Repair immediately (major defects):
    Nearside Front Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))
    Front Brakes imbalanced across an axle (1.2.1 (b) (i))
    Service brake efficiency below requirements (1.2.2 (a) (i))
    Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
    Front Inner Brake pad(s) wearing thin (1.1.13 (a) (ii))
    Front Brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened


    It depends on your circumstances. I think they often err on the side of caution because that makes more profit for them.
    Front brakes need attention to get them braking evenly.
  • Jumblebumble
    Jumblebumble Posts: 1,968 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Putting new pads onto shagged old discs is a false economy. You know the discs need replacing sooner or later - and you always put new pads on with new discs.

    The MOT doesn't remove the wheels - they can see that the discs are knackered just looking through the wheel or behind it. With the wheel off, you'll probably find they're below minimum thickness.

    Marginal cost of putting new discs on is minimal - very little extra time while the pads are being done anyway.

    In short - they're your brakes. Stop penny-pinching!

    And I would add if you have a crash where you don't stop in time your insurance company will certainly appreciate this MOT failure
  • fred246
    fred246 Posts: 3,620 Forumite
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    My front discs are 26mm when new and should be replaced when under 22mm. So if there is greater than 24mm I will just replace the pads. I normally need discs every other pad change. Ask them for your measurements.
  • Ganga
    Ganga Posts: 4,253 Forumite
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    Due to the low cost of disc,s when bought from non dealers it makes sense to change them when the caliper is off plus it makes sense to fit new pads,job done and should pass the MOT .
     
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