Civil Partnership for Heterosexual Couples

Silvertabby

“ largely because a registry office service still mentions 'husband and wife' instead of 'equal partners'.
Originally posted by Silvertabby

Gavin83 wrote: »

Aren't they the same thing?

In our eyes, yes - we are husband and wife and equal partners. But the couple who fought for civil ceremonies for opposite sex couples think that there is a difference:

The couple, who met in 2010 and have two children, said the "legacy of marriage" which "treated women as property for centuries" was not an option for them.
"We want to raise our children as equal partners and feel that a civil partnership - a modern, symmetrical institution - sets the best example for them," they explained.

suki1964

I say why pay out twice? Go ahead and do the registry office wedding and say nowt to anyone other then your two witnesses ( or pull them in off the street ) Then if you want to have a big do at a later date, have a blessing and go for it

The only difference in the ceremony is that a civil wedding can not be religious and has to include the words "I do solemnly declare that I know not of any lawful impediment why I [name] may not be joined in matrimony to [name]" and "I call upon these persons here present, to witness that I [name] do take thee [name] to be my lawful wedded wife / wife-husband / husband."

Any other words you choose yourself, same as you would in a civil partnership

Also remember civil partnerships are not recognised world wide whereas marriage is

Mrs_Ryan

I’m having a civil partnership (in 16 days time) and it’s basically a wedding ceremony without the marriage part (because my dad is terminally ill and it’s one of his last wishes to walk his ‘bairn’ down the aisle)
Marriage is out of the question for several reasons (mostly to do with Irish families, religion and threats of disowning- long story) but we need something legal because of above problems, mostly to do with OH.
If you want a CP, have a CP. If you don’t, get married!

userdefinable

Thanks everyone. The civil partnership process sounds a bit messy and ill conceived, in the case of possibly wanting to marry later.

Therefore, I think we'll just go with the elopement idea as suggested

p00hsticks

Silvertabby wrote: »

A quiet registry office do with a couple of the office clerks as witnesses. You don't even need to tell anyone else until you are ready for a party - far less messy than a civil partnership, especially as all the rules haven't been confirmed yet.

They won't provide the witnesses any more - you have to bring your own (you could always try turning up a bit early and stopping random people in the street outside).

onwards&upwards

userdefinable wrote: »

Thanks everyone. The civil partnership process sounds a bit messy and ill conceived, in the case of possibly wanting to marry later.

Therefore, I think we'll just go with the elopement idea as suggested

I don’t think it was ever considered that people might get a CP as some sort of intermediate step before marriage, because that is not at all what it is. It’s just marriage with a different name.

suki1964

onwards&upwards wrote: »

I don’t think it was ever considered that people might get a CP as some sort of intermediate step before marriage, because that is not at all what it is. It’s just marriage with a different name.

It is not marriage with a different name - Sorry

A civil partnership allows couples of any sex to live together and have the legal rights of the country that have the civil partnership that married people have

So yes you get the pension rights blah blah blah, but you are NOT Married

Marriage is universal

Try going to some muslim countries and booking a room as a couple when your are not married

OK that is a bit extreme but Marriage is marriage and civil partnerships are completely different in the eyes of other countries


I don't have a problem with civil partnerships just in case anyone is wondering, Im glad they were brought in, same as Im glad marriage between any sex is now allowed

But get married, or don't . Just don't confuse the two

onwards&upwards

suki1964 wrote: »

It is not marriage with a different name - Sorry

A civil partnership allows couples of any sex to live together and have the legal rights of the country that have the civil partnership that married people have

So yes you get the pension rights blah blah blah, but you are NOT Married

Marriage is universal

Try going to some muslim countries and booking a room as a couple when your are not married

OK that is a bit extreme but Marriage is marriage and civil partnerships are completely different in the eyes of other countries


I don't have a problem with civil partnerships just in case anyone is wondering, Im glad they were brought in, same as Im glad marriage between any sex is now allowed

But get married, or don't . Just don't confuse the two

Yeah those are good points.