Satin finish paint (brilliant white) - better than Dulux

fifthofwhisky

I have been painting some well-prepared woodwork (window sills, etc) after carefully preparing the surfaces. I used Dulux Satinwood Quick Dry paint and a synthetic brush as advised. The finish is full of brush marks. Not impressed. Reminds me of when I used Dulux paint some years ago and the brilliant white finish yellowed requiring all the work to be done again.

Has anyone had experience with this paint? Any recommendations for a better option (all I want is a smooth satin finish).

flashg67

I've struggled with water based paints as they don't seem to flow and smooth out well. I've had a better finish using a foam gloss roller for larger areas. I tend to use Screwfix No Nonsense as it is decent value and seems as good as premium brands I've tried over the years

fifthofwhisky

flashg67 wrote: »

I've struggled with water based paints as they don't seem to flow and smooth out well. I've had a better finish using a foam gloss roller for larger areas. I tend to use Screwfix No Nonsense as it is decent value and seems as good as premium brands I've tried over the years

I've just read that diluting with 5% white spirit, using a roller to apply (liberally), and finishing with a brush can help.

daveyjp

Swap to Dulux Diamond Trade gloss instead.

Oil based may take a few days to harden off completely, but it is very hard wearing and I know from living with it for 8 years that it doesn't yellow at all.

Martyn_H

I used two coats of No Nonsense white emulsion on a ceiling and it looked like a patchwork quilt and rather greyish. One coat of Dulux Trade and problem sorted.

vansboy

I had similar issues with a Screwfix product, whch was Dulux made, under a hidden brand name.


Now revert to Homebase or B&Q satin white water based and as I've used both previously, know I won't have problems.


VB

JimmyChanga

With water based you have to work it fast. If you miss any bits just wait for it to dry and come back with subsequent coats.
I've used Leyland, B&Q and even Aldi's version. Had no problems.

Oil based is more sympathetic and many times only requires one coat but I hate the clean up and sniffing all the crap. Environmentally worse too. Then you have to make sure no dust flies around or no one touches the wet paint for x hours.

fifthofwhisky

daveyjp wrote: »

Swap to Dulux Diamond Trade gloss instead.

Oil based may take a few days to harden off completely, but it is very hard wearing and I know from living with it for 8 years that it doesn't yellow at all.

Thanks. How can I get a good finish with that paint please?

Heedtheadvice

Solvent based paints have the best finish but do have lots of downsides several of which have been mentioned above.
Generally water based paint brush applied does not have such a smooth finish but is quite good when applied generously (but not overloaded to the point of running), quickly (as mentioned above) and with minimal working. Apply, cross brush and light finishing strokes then leave.
It is usually a brighter white, retains whiteness longer, easier to clean brushes, can be applied on slightly damp surfaces where oilbased would not adhere better covering properties, better for the environment and health......so IMHO better to use especially for a satin finish!


Incidentally some very high gloss car paints are now water based, the secret being it is sprayed on!


I have found that the cheaper own brands and some 'trade' paints as good as the main well known ones having used to good effect Homebase, Johnsons and Wickes to good effect and still bright after 10 years!! Maybe time to get the brush out again ...:rotfl:

Moss5

I have satinwood doors that still look good after several years.
My method was to brush into all the nooks and crannies, then quickly finish with a sponge roller. A sponge dab or paint pad achieve the same eggshell finish. Important not to allow the work to dry when rolling, it can lift a layer onto the roller.
Do all the difficult stuff first. Allow to dry and do the large flat areas last.