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What's this word on Planning Permission discussion docs?!
Bendy_House
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Hi.
Digging into the somewhat dodgy history of a house we are interested in, we have found a document from the LA's planning department where they were considering removing the owner's permitted development rights so as to control future development on the plot. This is a document from the early 90's, so lots of handwritten notes, many of which are barely legible...
https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipNMD-Mq9DqT-7xYcHp6SgaLTm1HBEjnQHJ-OMOG
Can anyone work out what the 'Clivorum'-like word is in the line "may result in a C....... situation...", and what it could mean?
Many thanks.
Digging into the somewhat dodgy history of a house we are interested in, we have found a document from the LA's planning department where they were considering removing the owner's permitted development rights so as to control future development on the plot. This is a document from the early 90's, so lots of handwritten notes, many of which are barely legible...
https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipNMD-Mq9DqT-7xYcHp6SgaLTm1HBEjnQHJ-OMOG
Can anyone work out what the 'Clivorum'-like word is in the line "may result in a C....... situation...", and what it could mean?
Many thanks.
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Can't see your pic. Is it publicly visible?0
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Can now see the pic, but no idea about interpretation. Might be a reference to a principle from some oddly-named relevant court case.0
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Note - in view of its large size, the P.d. rights should be removed to control future extensions which may result in a 'Clivorium/Chivarium' situation and removal of restriction. See Applicants Supporting letter dated 3/12/92
No idea what the word means, but in case people are still struggling with the link.
Clivorium appears to be the name of a Swedish business if that's of any help - something to do with water I think.
There's also a house - Clivorum, Weare Giffard, Bideford EX39 4QZ - on Zoopla but that would be unlikely unless it's the same part of the country as you OP?That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.
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It does indeed say Clivorum.
From a quick google search, it would appear to be some kind of plant. Maybe it has the benefit of some kind of preservation order like trees sometimes do, especially as it mentions it's size.0 -
What does the supporting letter say?0
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I suspect it's a reference to a house name which has been involved in a permitted-development dispute within that local authority at some point before 1992, and which is being used as a shorthand for some precedent.
Whether that or any other 30yo precedent would be relevant to any application today is another question entirely.
Clivorum itself is a word used in various Latin plant names - which would make it a strong possibility for a keen gardener's house name back in the day - and derives from the latin for a slope, the same etymology as incline.0 -
Nice detective work, NewShadow!
I had come across that property whilst doing a 'Clivorum' search, but had let it pass me by. Looking at it now it does seem like a property that's been allowed to expand in a sprawling and uncontrolled manner.
I suspect you and Adrian have hit on it; they wanted to prevent the owner from expanding beyond what was already a large house for the situation.
Bouicca, the supporting letter was a list of the landowner's children to try and justify it having 4 bedrooms. This person had a history of 'trying it on', and the LA was wary of him. :-)0 -
Oooops! It would appear that I got completely the wrong end of the stick :rotfl:0
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