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  • motorguy
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    Or maybe Motability have had / dont want exposes about how rough some of the cars are when returned? Maybe better to prevent them being seen by the public?
  • Car_54
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    motorguy wrote: »
    The other side of it is, maybe the dealers have dug their heels in?

    If a dealer group is maybe buying 1,000 ex motability cars a year, I cant imagine they're terribly happy if private buyers can come in and pillage the nicest cars from the auction ring?

    Maybe dealers were getting tired of people bypassing them and just going to auction?
    An agreement between the auction house and dealership(s) sounds rather like a crime under the Competition Act.
  • motorguy
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    edited 4 January 2020 at 11:57PM
    Car_54 wrote: »
    An agreement between the auction house and dealership(s) sounds rather like a crime under the Competition Act.

    You think so? So all auctions are public are they, because i think you'll find theres a lot of closed dealer only auctions. That would be based on agreement reached between the seller, the auction house and the dealers.

    All the motability ones through BCA, for example are closed to the public, not just that the public cant bid..

    https://www.british-car-auctions.co.uk/buy/Useful-information/Types-of-auction/Motability/

    But that as the reason merely speculation on my part. But quite possible the big dealer groups arent happy at having to bid on cars at auctions where the public can bid them up and / or that the general public can use to bypass going to the dealers to buy the cars.

    Irrespective though - clearly theres a very good reason for Motability to do it and we will never know their exact reason(s).
  • Car_54
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    motorguy wrote: »
    Irrespective though - clearly theres a very good reason for Motability to do it and we will never know their exact reason(s).
    Not all decisions by businesses are very good. Otherwise none would ever go bust ...
  • poppy12345
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    Robisere wrote: »
    a £250 bonus at the end of a lease, if the car is in good condition.


    That's a little outdated. The good condition bonus hasn't been £250 for quite some time. It changed to £500 then changed again a few months ago and for a 3 year lease it's now £600. https://www.motability.co.uk/your-lease/car/good-condition-bonus/


    I collected my new car at the end of November and 5 days later i received a cheque for £600.
  • Car_54
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    motorguy wrote: »
    You think so? So all auctions are public are they, because i think you'll find theres a lot of closed dealer only auctions. That would be based on agreement reached between the seller, the auction house and the dealers.
    Indeed. Such agreements are probably illegal if they "have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the United Kingdom". It's difficult to see what other object they'd have.
  • AdrianC
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    An agreement between the auction house and dealership(s) sounds rather like a crime under the Competition Act.
    Car_54 wrote: »
    Such agreements are probably illegal if they "have as their object or effect the prevention, restriction or distortion of competition within the United Kingdom". It's difficult to see what other object they'd have.
    Is it any different to the insurance industry saying "You cannot buy a CatA/B car from Copart"?
  • zaksmum
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    But Motability is not a business, it's a charity, and as such should attempt to obtain the highest price for it's ex Motability cars? And a private buyer is likely to pay more than a dealer as he won't have to factor in a potential profit.
  • zaksmum wrote: »
    But Motability is not a business, it's a charity, and as such should attempt to obtain the highest price for it's ex Motability cars? And a private buyer is likely to pay more than a dealer as he won't have to factor in a potential profit.

    Dealers probably offer motability a better return. Sell the cars off a bulk sales instead of showing them individually to a number of tyre kickers.
  • BoGoF
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    zaksmum wrote: »
    But Motability is not a business, it's a charity, and as such should attempt to obtain the highest price for it's ex Motability cars? And a private buyer is likely to pay more than a dealer as he won't have to factor in a potential profit.

    Suggest you Google 'motability profits' then say they are not a business.

    Anyhow, as said above it's far more efficient for them to sell them in bulk to dealers. And frankly, why you feel they need to justify their policy to you bemuses me.
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