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Trade Plate Question
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Sorry, I must have misinterpreted...I wasn't asking about parked cars if you read my original post.
andWe have someone who lives near me who leaves untaxed cars on the road for weeks at a time but has trade plates in the windows.
I thought they were only to be used to travel between trade places (Showrooms, garages etc.) not ... leave on public roads.We have very limited parking and is owened by someone where there is only 2 of driving age but have 2 cars they regularly use then for some reason have another at least 2 which just sit there for weeks at a time.
Can I refer you back to the question in my earlier reply?Are you wanting advice on the correct use of trade plates, or are you looking for an excuse to shop them because you don't like their business activities?0 -
A Trade Plate cannot be displayed from inside the vehicleWe have someone who lives near me who leaves untaxed cars on the road for weeks at a time but has trade plates in the windows.I thought they were only to be used to travel between trade places (Showrooms, garages etc.) not for personal use or leave on public roads.
Has anyone any advice on this please.
There's quite a few permitted purposes for which a TP may be used, but they can only be used for the permitted business use that DVLA issued them for i.e. as stated on the application form.
But to address your query in the simplest terms, it is an offence to display trade plates on parked vehicles
(although arguably, they are not being displayed if they are inside the vehicle - see my earlier comment)
Which if you think about it is obvious. Who is going to leave a vehicle unattended with valuable TPs displayed? Chances are they won't be there when the driver returns.
There is a maximum fine, upon conviction, of £5,000 for making a false or misleading declaration, or providing false or misleading evidence in an application.
There is a maximum fine, upon conviction, of £1,000 for displaying trade plates for a purpose not permitted.
Although DVLA tend not to attempt to convict except in the most serious of cases. It's cheaper, simpler and far more effective for them to simply revoke the TP licence, and advise the holder accordingly.
Been there, got the T-shirt ... and eventually after a lot of grovelling and apologies, our TPs back
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sevenhills wrote: »A guy that lives near me has a small van parked at the side of the road with trade plates on, only been there a few days.
I would be surprised if the trade plates were much cheaper than road tax, although it must cover insurance too.
I think his brother has a garage/workshop.
It is an offence to display trade plates on a vehicle registered to you (unless you are a vehicle manufacturer and the vehicle is being used for research and development purposes)
A motor trader may only use TPs for vehicles in the temporary possession of a business for testing, trialling, demonstrating, delivering, repossessing or dismantling.
Remember, a Trade Plate cannot be displayed from inside the vehicle.
Nor must they be allowed to cover the vehicle’s existing number plates, where the vehicle is already registered. (motorcycles excepted)0 -
Are you sure? If the vehicle is covered for any driver (e.g. a company car) what offence is committed?Shaun_of_the_Dead wrote: »No, but you need trade insurance to fit the plates.0 -
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Are you sure? If the vehicle is covered for any driver (e.g. a company car) what offence is committed?Shaun_of_the_Dead wrote: »Typo edited.
Now it's somewhat confusing, but not incorrect.
Perhaps I can clarify.
Trade Plates themselves do not come packaged with any form of insurance cover (which is what I thought sevenhills was otherwise implying)
Of course, to use a motor vehicle on a public road, it must be insured.
Where a trader is using a vehicle in the temporary possession of a business for testing, trialling, demonstrating, delivering, repossessing or dismantling, and he is unsure of it's insurance status, he will usually just add it to his own trade insurance to be sure it is insured.
- this also makes it easy to then prove to plod if he gets stopped that is is insured, so won't get it siezed for suspected non-insurance.
This may be, for example, a vehicle taken in for resale. Unlikely therefore that anyone else would be insuring it at the time.
However, if the trader is sure the vehicle is already covered for his own trade purposes (i.e. trade insurance), then of course no separate insurance cover is required.
Ultimately, it is for the driver to satisfy himself the vehicle is insured for whatever use it is being put to on the public highway, and of course be able to prove that to plod if he gets stopped - which may be highly likely if the vehicle itself is not registered as insured with the MID.0 -
Now it's somewhat confusing, but not incorrect.
Perhaps I can clarify.
Trade Plates themselves do not come packaged with any form of insurance cover (which is what I thought sevenhills was otherwise implying)
Of course, to use a motor vehicle on a public road, it must be insured.
Where a trader is using a vehicle in the temporary possession of a business for testing, trialling, demonstrating, delivering, repossessing or dismantling, and he is unsure of it's insurance status, he will usually just add it to his own trade insurance to be sure it is insured.
- this also makes it easy to then prove to plod if he gets stopped that is is insured, so won't get it siezed for suspected non-insurance.
This may be, for example, a vehicle taken in for resale. Unlikely therefore that anyone else would be insuring it at the time.
However, if the trader is sure the vehicle is already covered for his own trade purposes (i.e. trade insurance), then of course no separate insurance cover is required.
Ultimately, it is for the driver to satisfy himself the vehicle is insured for whatever use it is being put to on the public highway, and of course be able to prove that to plod if he gets stopped - which may be highly likely if the vehicle itself is not registered as insured with the MID.
If you want to be pedantic about it then that's incorrect.0
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