Thai visa query

sistafromanothermista

So, my son and his girlfriend (both uk citizens on uk passports) are wondering if the departure card gives them 90 day stay.
The back of the card indicates it does.
Can anyone shed any light on this?

PompeyPete

Your best bet, and not simply to answer your specific question is to have a read through the FCO Travel Advice website for Thailand.

The tab you specifically want is the 'Entry Requirements'. But there are other tabs, such as Security, Health, Etiquette and Local Laws.....these are well worth a read, particularly for first time visitors to the Region.

eDicky

What do you mean by 'departure card'?

How long do they want to stay? Are they applying for an actual visa, or arriving there without one for a 30-day stay?

EveryWhere

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

So, my son and his girlfriend (both uk citizens on uk passports) are wondering if the departure card gives them 90 day stay.
The back of the card indicates it does.
Can anyone shed any light on this?

If you mean the T.M.6, it indicates nothing. It's 30 days without a visa or 60(extendable for another thirty days) with an actual Tourist Visa.

Perhaps they aren't old enough to travel if they haven't bothered to do such rudimentary research.

PompeyPete

EveryWhere wrote: »

If you mean the T.M.6, it indicates nothing. It's 30 days without a visa or 60(extendable for another thirty days) with an actual Tourist Visa.

Perhaps they aren't old enough to travel if they haven't bothered to do such rudimentary research.

Yep, prior to committing any money, especially to a new country or region, some time should be invested in finding out whether you really want to go.....first stop should always be the FCO Travel Advice for that country.

sistafromanothermista

Thanks.
Yes they thought they required a visa but on the reverse of their departure card the wording indicates they have 90 days so I was just looking for clarification as to if a visa after 30 days as a uk citizen is required that’s all.
All the research has been done this just threw a curve ball.

sistafromanothermista

eDicky wrote: »

What do you mean by 'departure card'?

How long do they want to stay? Are they applying for an actual visa, or arriving there without one for a 30-day stay?

They have a departure card and on the reverse it says something about 90 days. I have no idea if I can add a photo into the forum?
They have 30 days as standard but our understanding was they can extend this to a 60 day visa however the wording on the card has confused me!

G_M

Why not
a) explain what 'departure card' this is (usually applies when leaving a country, not befoe arriving). ad
b) quote the exact wording.

Or as advised, read the FCO advice

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand

Or Thai embassy advice

http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84451-Tourist-Visa.html

EveryWhere

sistafromanothermista wrote: »

They have a departure card and on the reverse it says something about 90 days. I have no idea if I can add a photo into the forum?
They have 30 days as standard but our understanding was they can extend this to a 60 day visa however the wording on the card has confused me!

No they cannot extend it to a 60 day visa. That is not what I wrote. It doesn't seem as if the research has at all been done, if you are making statements such as that.

Thirty days allowed if no visa. 60 days if they get a visa before leaving( extendable to 90 days for 1900 baht whilst in country).

If they have a flight for 60 days, but no visa, the airline might not let them board. They might, but they might not.
You can extend the 30 day 'no visa' stay to 60 days for 1900 baht whilst in country, but you'll need to get into the country to do so. If the airline doesn't allow you to board, you cannot do so.

Please do proper research, rather than claiming you did research. I don't want to read here that they are locked up in the IDC because of ignorance.

If they have a departure card, it means that they are already in the country. If they didn't get a visa beforehand, they have just 30 days permission. But they can extend their stay for another 30 days by crossing a land border on the last day of their stay or by going to an Immigration office and paying 1900 baht on the last day or close to it. They can extend that by a further 30 days by crossing a land border again. They can extend that by a further 30 days by flying across a border and returning.
Only two land border crossings allowed per annum.
In order words U.K passport holders get 30 days permission every time they enter.

Tell them to stop being so dopey and dragging you into their dopeyness.

It does not say anything about giving them 90 days. Why you or they would think so, is a mystery.

EveryWhere

The passage is only relevant for people who are allowed to stay 90 or more days continuously. It doesn't concern tourists, as they will always visit some sort of Immigration office before that time.

eDicky

Possession of the departure section of the Tor Mor 6 landing card indicates that they are already in the Kingdom.

The arrival section of the card is collected by the immigration officer on entry, and the stamp then put in the visitor's passport clearly indicates the date when their permitted stay will expire, unless extended.

Although a fine can be paid on departure if it's more than one day after that date, being found in country as an 'overstay' by police results in incarceration in the Immigration Detention Centre (IDC), a notoriously unpleasant prospect.

No mitigating circumstances of misunderstanding what is stated on the T.M.6, or indeed if dyslexia runs in the family, would be taken into consideration.