Being filmed like a criminal.

coffeehound

I can see the OP's point here

VfM4meplse wrote: »

This is one step beyond general CCTV surveillance; it's a direct threat from the business and shoved right in your grille. I've not seen it around here, but will avoid self-serve tills in any shops that introduce it.

Barny1979

coffeehound wrote: »

it's a direct threat from the business and shoved right in your grille.

Drama-llama

GreyQueen

I avoid self-service tills because I want human beings to have jobs. It's the very last resort for me to use one of them, I prefer to queue to be served by a person. One or two places I find myself sometimes go over to auto tills only at a certain point in the evening.



A great way to protect jobs is to refuse to engage with auto tills when there is a choice, and to boycott stores when there is not - and email the company to tell them why they just lost sales.


There are hopeful signs, one of the big supermarkets had to re-people a small store it had de-staffed apart from a customer service desk (in London, I believe) because customers weren't having this nonsense.


Be authentic, be real - real bread, real home cooking and bliddy real shop assistants.


One could also wear a really big hat (sombrero, anyone?) and let the CCTV scan on that for a change.:rotfl:

VfM4meplse

coffeehound wrote: »

I can see the OP's point here



This is one step beyond general CCTV surveillance; it's a direct threat from the business and shoved right in your grille. I've not seen it around here, but will avoid self-serve tills in any shops that introduce it.

Why?

I'm sure their CCTV can capture your moosh anyway, having it so obvious might put off the chancers desperate to feed their families rather than addicts determined to feed their habit. I would like to think that they can ID anyone who has swindled the self-service till, make sure their security guards are familiar with these faces so it doesn't happen twice.

Mr_Singleton

Pollycat wrote: »

The 'blame' started in the post below:

'your generation' being JackieO's

I'm not blaming anyone but my own eyes tell me it's mainly the younger generation who seem to chuck disposable food/drink containers away willy-nilly. Quite often right where they're standing.

Could you point me to any reference to the recycling of the millions of tons of plastic/man-made materials that were thrown away in the 60’s & 70’s other than it was put in the bin where the local council collected it and dumped it in landfill?

Also could point me to any information relating to water meters in the 60’s & 70’s or was water charged at a flat rate (water rates) meaning using 100 gallons cost the same as using 10,000 gallons? Just look at how many hugely environmentally damaging reservoirs had to be built in that period because that generation felt there right to unlimited water trumped everything else inc. the environment.

We ended up with beef and butter mountains, milk lakes after ‘modern’ farming was hailed as the next big thing in the 50’s. Land was drenched in pesticides and fertiliser, hedges disappeared....big was good but massive was even better.

So of course that generation was obviously completely innocent of any environment damage. It’s the millennials and there paper cups of coffee and mobile phones.

Mr_Singleton

GreyQueen wrote: »

There are hopeful signs, one of the big supermarkets had to re-people a small store it had de-staffed apart from a customer service desk (in London, I believe) because customers weren't having this nonsense.


Be authentic, be real - real bread, real home cooking and bliddy real shop assistants.

Until people start paying more for there food it’s going to be a race to the bottom. Tesco’s & Sainsbury’s et. al. are having to compete with the likes of Lidl so are slashing costs. That’s not good for anyone.

GreyQueen

Oh dearie dearie me, someone is tad cross.

Interesting fact about UK population;

1960 (52 million)
2020- (projected) 67 million.

Do enjoy the official statistics - https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/articles/overviewoftheukpopulation/mar2017


Gosh, more people need more water, whodathunkit?!


History of artifical substances including polyester and plastics (with dates!).


https://www.bpf.co.uk/Plastipedia/Plastics_History/Default.aspx


Laundry routine pre the automated washing machine;


1. Fill the 'copper' (a large vessel often built into a 'wash-house') with cold water. Light a fire underneath it. Heat water. Add washing soda and primitive laundry detergent. Poke laundry about with a wooden stick and fish it out with wooden tongs.


Rinse in cold water (carried from a tap, perhaps even pumped from a well). Run through a mangle. Did you even know that 1950s primitive washing machines had a mangle mounted on the outside? Or that slugs sometimes come out of the spout of an old style manual water pump?



Line dry. Do a lot less laundry than is common in modern times, because it was back-breaking work. And yes, I have used a single-tub primitve washing machine and a spin-drier, as well as a copper and copper stick and I sure as hell wasn't playing games with a re-enactment society at the time.


I was born in rural area in England in the 1960s. As was commonplace, our home was minus a bathroom. The plumbing was limited to one cold tap in the kitchen (the copper was in the corner of the kitchen). You want a bath? Take the tin bath off the nail on the privy wall, cart it indoors in front of the fire, bucket water from the cold tap to the copper, heat it, bucket it to the tin bath, reverse the process at bath's end. Showers? That was what fell on your head when walking out of doors. The 'loo' was outside and was emptied once a week by the night-soil cart. A few years prior, it was emptied into a hole dug in the veggie patch, son. We had really good crops, too.



Before you shout off in front of women (and men) old enough to be your mother, grandmother, and even great granny, I suggest you take yourself off online and read some social history. A couple of days' worth of reading should do it.


It'll be an eye-opener, frankly. And then you can get off your flippin' high horse and check your sense of entitlement and understand that there are plenty of people still living who are not actually antiquities who have forgotten more than you'll ever know.


Meanwhile, if you actually want to be a laughing stock, do continue in your usual vein......:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:




ETA - oh and I have never been in a Lidl or an Aldi with auto tills. I see them in the other supermarkets inc in M & S foodhalls, funnily enough

Pollycat

Mr_Singleton wrote: »

Could you point me to any reference to the recycling of the millions of tons of plastic/man-made materials that were thrown away in the 60’s & 70’s other than it was put in the bin where the local council collected it and dumped it in landfill?

Also could point me to any information relating to water meters in the 60’s & 70’s or was water charged at a flat rate (water rates) meaning using 100 gallons cost the same as using 10,000 gallons? Just look at how many hugely environmentally damaging reservoirs had to be built in that period because that generation felt there right to unlimited water trumped everything else inc. the environment.

We ended up with beef and butter mountains, milk lakes after ‘modern’ farming was hailed as the next big thing in the 50’s. Land was drenched in pesticides and fertiliser, hedges disappeared....big was good but massive was even better.

So of course that generation was obviously completely innocent of any environment damage. It’s the millennials and there paper cups of coffee and mobile phones.

Possibly I 'could point you'.
But I'm bored with all this drama now.
Get over it or shop elsewhere.

Mr_Singleton

Pollycat wrote: »

Possibly I 'could point you'.
But I'm bored with all this drama now.

No you couldn't point me because as you very well know it mostly ended up in landfill as the archaeologists who dig up your nylon flares in 500 years will confirm.

Bored? That's rather evasive don't you think?

Your blaming the young for having mobiles and drinking coffee.... fair enough but back it up with facts.

monnagran

Out of interest , Mr S. sweetie, could you point us to the ways in which you, personally, are attempting to clear up the mess we old gits have made.

No plastics? No man made materials? No unethically produced organical materials? No use of fossil fuels? No trips abroad? No wanton use of water? November?

Enlighten us please.