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  • Blackcats
    Blackcats Posts: 3,887 Forumite
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    Have had some pensions paperwork through - for one of the pensions it is information I already knew and I now need to decide the balance between lump sum and annual pension.  There is a minimum/maximum scale to work within.  With the rising cost of living I'm thinking higher pension, lower lump sum but then I also have a lump sum figure in mind so I might calculate what pension I'd get if I took that amount of lump sum.  The formula is for every extra £12 of lump sum you reduce annual pension by £1, which I think means if you live longer than 12 years you are better off with more pension?  

    I'll get a cuppa and a calculator and work on some numbers.  
    I'm going for a walk first to clear my head.  

  • foxgloves
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    Glad to hear there was something at a 'granular level' in your report, @Blackcats. I used to work in the same sector as Mr F before I took VR in the austerity cuts & whenever he goes on a training course, I whatsapp him a list of corporate-ese so he can play Bullsh*t Bingo. He says that he has to try not to laugh when my list pings up on his phone.
    F x
    2025's challenges: 1) To fill our 10 Savings Pots to their healthiest level ever
    2) To read 100 books (36/100) 3) The Shrinking of Foxgloves 6.5kg/30kg

    "Life can only be understood backwards but it must be lived forwards" (Soren Kirkegaard 1813-55)
  • savingholmes
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    Yes - you're right on the pension calc. To buy that level  of pension in the open market would cost you £25-40 per £1 a year - so they get quite a saving if you take a bigger lump sum.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
  • Blackcats
    Blackcats Posts: 3,887 Forumite
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    Ah thank you SH - that's helpful.  I've got some provisional figures that I'm comfortable with but I'll take a few days to mull it over a bit more.  I've got some paperwork to send off too which I'll aim to do this week.  

    I'm aiming for a well-being week - some gentle exercise every day - no excuses, no procrastination - I've decided that I'm worth a minimum of 30 minutes a day to improve fitness.  I've been trying to make healthier food choices too and a very stubborn, hard to shift kg has now gone.  I wonder where the kgs that we lose disappear to in the universe 🤔

    I've been coasting with my battle with council tax - I have been making a big monthly payment but I haven't been throwing everything at it iyswim.   So I've claimed £10.20 from £co and rounded down bank accounts to make another £100 overpayment before payday on Thursday.  The balance is now £1000 (started in April at £3750 😵‍💫 - it's obviously very expensive living in a mansion 🤣 (actually looking at the size of some of the houses I pass on my walk I dread to think how much their running costs are!) 


  • Cheery_Daff
    Cheery_Daff Posts: 17,159 Forumite
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    Ooh, well done on the council tax battle! I confess I never worked out what ours is annually - I thought ours was expensive but annually it's £2352 so perhaps not as bad as I thought!! 😮
  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,971 Forumite
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    That is a very ouchy CT.

    Good luck on pension decision. The other thing to consider though is your pension lump sum is likely to be tax free but main pension isn't 
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
  • Alchemilla
    Alchemilla Posts: 6,252 Forumite
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    Good reminder about Liddly, I'll send DH on Tuesday.
  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,971 Forumite
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    Good luck whatever route you decide.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £2.6K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £24.3K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.2K) = 30.1/£127.5K target 23.6% 29/7/25
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.8K updated 29/7/25
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