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  • I must say that in England & Wales ordering a re-test for excess alcohol (especially for a reasonably low reading which a 12 month ban would indicate) would be unusual. Courts would normally leave the DVLA to address any potential medical issues. "High Risk" offenders go through more hoops before being granted their new licence (High risk is >87.5 in breath - with commensurate levels for blood and urine; second or subsequent offence within 10 years or refusing to provide a sample). Only if there was a genuine road safety risk over and above that normally presented by a drink driver would a re-test be considered. I must say that in over twenty years observing English courts I cannot recall seeing one driver ordered to take a retest following a DD conviction. Perhaps they have different guidance in NI.
    Perhaps this will help
    https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/driving-disqualifications

  • It doesn't until the op returns, there was either more than one offence or he has crashed and caused either a serious injury or death.
  • Car_54
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    If you carry on driving and get caught and you have defied an English court who have banned you from driving in UK until you have retaken a UK test this is going to lead you into a world of pain
    It wasn't an English court.
  • It doesn't until the op returns, there was either more than one offence or he has crashed and caused either a serious injury or death.

    It does help, Shaun:

    In Northern Ireland there are some offences for which, if a disqualification is imposed, you must resit a driving test before applying for the return of your licence, this re-test is outside the jurisdiction of the court. These offences relate to:

    - alcohol
    - drugs
    - careless driving
    - dangerous driving


    This is a difference between GB and NI of which I was not aware. Since the article says that the disqualification is outside the jurisdiction of the court it implies that the ordering of a re-test is not discretionary. It seems rather like the revocation procedure used under the "New Drivers" legislation. The court has no discretion over that as it is an administrative action undertaken by the DVLA and not a judicial decision made by the court.
  • It does help, Shaun:

    In Northern Ireland there are some offences for which, if a disqualification is imposed, you must resit a driving test before applying for the return of your licence, this re-test is outside the jurisdiction of the court. These offences relate to:

    - alcohol
    - drugs
    - careless driving
    - dangerous driving


    This is a difference between GB and NI of which I was not aware. Since the article says that the disqualification is outside the jurisdiction of the court it implies that the ordering of a re-test is not discretionary. It seems rather like the revocation procedure used under the "New Drivers" legislation. The court has no discretion over that as it is an administrative action undertaken by the DVLA and not a judicial decision made by the court.

    But the OP said extended test, so that in Northern Ireland is more than a simple excess alcohol.
  • Car_54
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    All of this assumes that the nidirect website’s explanation of the law is correct. Unlike the rest of gov.uk.
  • I'm not so sure, shaun.

    As I explained earlier, in E&W if a re-test is ordered for an offence which carries a mandatory disqualification it will be an extended test. I would assume (though cannot be sure) that the same applies in NI. The article is not specific - it just says "...you must resit a driving test..". I cannot find the definitive NI legislation. That said, I haven't looked too far because, working on the assumption that the NI court knew its business, the OP has been ordered to sit an extended re-test and that's what he must do before resuming unaccompanied driving in either the UK or Ireland.
  • I'm not so sure, shaun.

    As I explained earlier, in E&W if a re-test is ordered for an offence which carries a mandatory disqualification it will be an extended test. I would assume (though cannot be sure) that the same applies in NI. The article is not specific - it just says "...you must resit a driving test..". I cannot find the definitive NI legislation. That said, I haven't looked too far because, working on the assumption that the NI court knew its business, the OP has been ordered to sit an extended re-test and that's what he must do before resuming unaccompanied driving in either the UK or Ireland.

    The link provided talks about retest and extended retest. The OP states they must take and extended test so it must be more than excess alcohol.
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