Keeper Liability in Scotland: Transport (Scotland) Act 2019

Umkomaas

I don't understand the panic. Gordon & Noble are simply debt collectors. They don't 'own' any debt, they cannot pursue through the courts. A Letter Before Action means the next action will be another letter!  On behalf of which parking firm are they begging?

Radgieweegie

The only thing giving me cause for alarm is there's multiple tickets. This is on behalf of euro car parks. 

Umkomaas

How Radgieweegie said:

The only thing giving me cause for alarm is there's multiple tickets. This is on behalf of euro car parks. 

How many?  

ECP are hardly litigious in England and Wales where the small claims court processes are a well trodden path for parking firms. Scotland is pretty much uncharted territory for them. But an actual claim would have to be made by the PPC themselves or a law firm representing them. G&N aren't one of those. 

Radgieweegie

8 tickets. Again, well in the past. Its easy to lose sight of them not being the ones I owe money to. I suspect they're testing the water now that the new law is on the way. At what point should I SAR ecp? 

Redx

Radgieweegie said:

The only thing giving me cause for alarm is there's multiple tickets. This is on behalf of euro car parks. 

None of that has anything to do with this thread which is about the Scottish transport bill when it is enacted in the future

It has no bearing on your issues

In England and Wales we have had to learn about all this over the last decade , whereas you in Scotland have a major catch up to do , especially where your laws and procedures differ from ours

The law discussed in this thread will most likely be enacted when the Parking bill is enacted , bringing your nation into line with England and Wales , apart from the fact that the statute is 5 years in Scotland , not 6 years

Umkomaas

Radgieweegie said:

8 tickets. Again, well in the past. Its easy to lose sight of them not being the ones I owe money to. I suspect they're testing the water now that the new law is on the way. At what point should I SAR ecp? 

Any time you like. There's a link to a template in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post. 

Radgieweegie

Thanks a lot. Thats me done hijacking for now. At what point should I create a new thread relating to this? I.e at the letter before action stage, or the court claim stage? 

Umkomaas

LBA if from ECP or a recognised law firm. 

pogofish

Umkomaas said:

I don't understand the panic. Gordon & Noble are simply debt collectors.

Gordon and Noble have been seen here before - they use a range of shabby practices incl having form for going well over the score in claiming powers they don’t have in relation to debt.

Also, Radgie, be aware that they do try to trace people and contact/harass them by phone, with aggressive, threatening calls aimed at scaring victims into paying-up on the spot. Do not entertain any calls from them whatsoever.

And yes, you need to get this split into a new thread ASAP - esp because of who you are dealing with and because you clearly agreed to not hijack threads as part of your signup!

DoaM

Someone I know remembers having an email exchange with Barnes & Noble in relation to a thread here a few years ago. 😁 It wasn't their thread - they just felt like poking the bear.

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