BW Legal.

Coupon-mad

But they don't call it 'legal costs' so don't call it that when complaining to the SRA.  You could attach a copy of DJ Grand's judgment in the Southampton case, to show that BW Legal have fought this point with a barrister (paid for by BW Legal, not a parking firm) and they lost, and so they 100% KNOW that they cannot add £60 'admin/contractual costs' to a parking claim.  The Beavis case paras 98, 193 and 198 tell us that all operational costs are part of the justification for a parking charge and must be within it already.

D_P_Dance

IMO it is unlikely that this will ever get in front of  judge, read this.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-courts-and-tribunals-planning-and-preparation

Hopefully the new CPR will put a stop to BWL's little games, the writing is on the wall.

beamerguy

Tuvster101 said:

Beamerguy, they ceetainly have! The original 'charge' was for £100 now they are demanding that plus a further £60 for legal costs.

What people need to understand is these people are just glorified debt collects, they might bear the name of "solicitors" but REAL solicitors are professionals and will obey the law ?   That is something BWL are not capable of doing.  Given the courts are saying the fake £60 is not lawful, BWL placed their own noose around their neck and daily that noose is getting tighter and that will continue until they get "the drop"
In your case they say it is "legal cost" ...... that is as nonsensical just as if they said "it is fund for Auntie Joan"

In reply to the LBC, which by the way anyone could issue, is once again highly flawed and your reply should be asking "on what legal authority do they have to add this amount ?    We know they do not have the legal authority, all replies to this so far are lies.  That now ties up with the new Civil Procedure rules which applies to their witness statement.  This simply means that they must tell the truth and the penalty for them will be contempt of court.   Read about this here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6110391/abuse-of-process-supplementary#latest

So, you ask them the question they cannot answer or substantiate and whether they reply or not, this is prime information for the court and especially the relationship to their witness statement 

Tuvster101

Beamerguy/Coupon-mad, my apologies re reading the letters they mainly refer to the £60 as 'our clients debt recovery costs' I guess it is irrelevant what they call it as it is fake!
So at present Britannia parking have been sent an SAR, Barely legal have been sent an email asking to hold my account while Britannia consider this. As set out in the Newbies thread.
I will send a complaint to the SRA first thing tomorrow, Is it worth me sending a further Email to Barely legal to query the £60 charge at this stage? or is that something to leave until/if they summon me to court?
thanks for the links also very helpful and insightful!
cheers
Tuvster101

Tuvster101

Just a quick point, I keep seeing on these threads 'Letter before claim' and 'Letter of claim' assuming they are different I have only ever received a 'Letter of claim'. Not sure if it makes any difference, Thanks guys

Le_Kirk

Letter of Claim (LoC), Letter Before Claim (LBC), Letter Before Action (LBA), Letter Before County Court Claim (LBCCC) are all interchangeable terms.

Le_Kirk

Tuvster101 said:

Beamerguy/Coupon-mad, my apologies re reading the letters they mainly refer to the £60 as 'our clients debt recovery costs' I guess it is irrelevant what they call it as it is fake!
So at present Britannia parking have been sent an SAR, Barely legal have been sent an email asking to hold my account while Britannia consider this. As set out in the Newbies thread.
I will send a complaint to the SRA first thing tomorrow, Is it worth me sending a further Email to Barely legal to query the £60 charge at this stage? or is that something to leave until/if they summon me to court?

If it were me, I would query the "debt recovery costs" with them now and inform them that you have written and reported them to SRA.

beamerguy

Tuvster101 said:

Beamerguy/Coupon-mad, my apologies re reading the letters they mainly refer to the £60 as 'our clients debt recovery costs' I guess it is irrelevant what they call it as it is fake!
So at present Britannia parking have been sent an SAR, Barely legal have been sent an email asking to hold my account while Britannia consider this. As set out in the Newbies thread.
I will send a complaint to the SRA first thing tomorrow, Is it worth me sending a further Email to Barely legal to query the £60 charge at this stage? or is that something to leave until/if they summon me to court?
thanks for the links also very helpful and insightful!
cheers
Tuvster101

This list is the nonsensical rubbish that BWLegal claim is legal ...
* contractual charge
* admin costs
* debt collector costs
* legal fees
* The CoP of each ATA says they can do it.
ALL OF WHICH IS RUBBISH

Will they really sign a witness statement that is nonsensical  ?????  well they do, and it's now prime for contempt of court .........   Don't wait for the court claim, let them know now that you are fully aware

D_P_Dance

Indeed, the more stuff you throw at them, the more will stick.  

Tuvster101

Hi guys, my draft email to barely legal is that ok to send off?
Dear Sir or Madam,

I am sending a further E-mail today to query directly to you the sum of £60 which has been added to the sum I allegedly owe.

Can you please send me your reasons for adding such costs, in the knowledge that your reply will be used in evidence in court should this get that far. 

It is my understanding such inflated and fictitious charges are against the law, as has been set out by District Judge Grand in Southampton when he ruled against your firm being allowed to implement additional charges.

In light of this I am this morning reporting BW Legal to the Solicitors Regulation Authority for adding on these charges.

I await your response.

Kind regards