Machines not working-UKPC LTD

Livinonaprayer

Hi, I’ve been through the newbies thread and found the template, but I wanted to check it applies to our situation.
The driver parked to go to the cinema. Two machines, neither working. She didn’t have her phone so couldn’t either pay by phone or take a photo of the non working machine.
Came back to a ticket from UKPC Ltd, £60 fine if paid in 14 days.
Do we start off with the template or do something else.
Thank you ��

Fruitcake

You start by editing your post to remove information about who did what. Only ever refer to The Driver and The Keeper, who are two different people.

Then, send the appeal template in blue from the NEWBIES, unaltered, from The Keeper.

Then read up on what to do if/when the appeal is rejected. Get pics of the site and signage in the same light conditions ready for PoPLA.

What happened when the keeper complained to the landowner?

Umkomaas

Complain to the cinema, see what they can do. I expect you won't be the only one in the same boat that day/evening.

Don't miss the UKPC 28-day deadline for your initial appeal, but work on the cinema initially. If no joy, get your appeal in to UKPC.

Livinonaprayer

Thank you both, edited ☺️
Haven’t complained to cinema yet, cinema is only one part of a small block with some other restaurants. No idea who landowner is... not sure how to find out..

Redx

Google it

Ask those businesses who the landowner is

Contact the local council and see who pays the non domestic business rates

Search the forum using the search box

Or pay the land registry a small fee to find out

Umkomaas

Livinonaprayer wrote: »

Thank you both, edited ☺️
Haven’t complained to cinema yet, cinema is only one part of a small block with some other restaurants. No idea who landowner is... not sure how to find out..

Call the council, ask which organisation pays the non-domestic rates there. Also try the Valuation Office website, that often carries landowner info. Is there a sign at the entrance to the site with all the outlets listed on it? Often the managing agent will be listed at the bottom. Call them.

Alternatively for £3 - £4, you can get it from The Land Registry website.

Livinonaprayer

Thank you, so can the land owner actually do anything?

Fruitcake

Livinonaprayer wrote: »

Thank you, so can the land owner actually do anything?

Nobody here can answer that question because we don't know who it is or what is in their contract with the scammers, assuming a valid contract actually exists.

Remember that the keeper waits until day 26 to appeal.

Livinonaprayer

So UKPC have replied to the Keeper asking for the full name and address of the Driver, to assist in them making their decision.


I am guessing we ignore this and wait for their final decision and POPLA code and then continue from there..

Le_Kirk

No need to guess, it is in the NEWBIE sticky but, yes, you are under no obligation to tell them - unless you don't like the driver!

The_Deep

It is not a fine, it is an invoice from an ex-clamper and well known fraudster

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

to compensate them for the alleged harm they suffered when you did what you did. We call it a scam. Pay them not a penny unless a judge so orders it.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.[/FONT][/FONT]