RAC Warranty Refusing to Pay

motorguy

oldagetraveller wrote: »

"The manifold was replaced on the car in March 2018 (before I owned it) for the exact same problem, so the one that has cracked would appear to be only 18 months old. The work was completed by a Jaguar specialist, not a main dealer."
I would suspect they will have fitted a cheap none oem manifold too. Maybe a Chinese "special" because a "genuine" Jaguar manifold will, no doubt, be priced equivalently to being made from solid platinum!

You've no evidence of that, and would a Jaguar specialist do that?

I had a quick look online and a genuine Jaguar manifold posted out by a Jaguar main dealer is around £200? Doesnt seem excessive - although there appears to be two banks of them, rather than just one. I think most of the cost is labour.

AdrianC

motorguy wrote: »

I had a quick look online and a genuine Jaguar manifold posted out by a Jaguar main dealer is around £200? Doesnt seem excessive - although there appears to be two banks of them, rather than just one. I think most of the cost is labour.

Seems to be a combo cam cover and manifold. Plastic. Twin turbo, of course, one per bank, and it looks like a part that's had several iterations to try to cure a known issue.

...and it also seems to be the bit they hung off the factory ceiling and built the rest of the engine around...

It's in there somewhere...


Any bets that the one that was replaced on the OP's car 18mo ago was the other side?

Jumblebumble

My goodness have a read of this
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/jaguar/xf-2008/good/
Absolutely appalling

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Is that the same engine that RangeRovers have, where anything more than an oil change needs the body off the chassis? Easy job if you have a 2 poster, rather difficult on the drive.
They are also known for the timing tensioner breaking off the oilpump housing, which drops the belt and bends valves. (No it isn't covered by any warranty, as RR say it is caused entirely by incorrect torque on the tensioner bolts when fitting, and no-one can prove otherwise)

AdrianC

facade wrote: »

Is that the same engine that RangeRovers have

Yes. Ford-PSA joint venture, originally 2.7, later 3.0, and closely related to the v8. Also used in various PSA stuff - C5, C6, 407.

where anything more than an oil change needs the body off the chassis? Easy job if you have a 2 poster, rather difficult on the drive.

But that doesn't apply to the Jags, since they're not on a chassis.

And the LR range is designed for it. It's actually not that big a job, and is done to save a chunk of time compared to doing it the "traditional" way... It'd be a smaller job on a Disco or RRS than on the XF, simply because getting the shell out the way makes it so much easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwEtKss83cU

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Like I said, easy if you have a 2 poster


Certainly puts me off owning one though (a RR, not a 2 poster- If I had a big enough garage.....)

oldagetraveller

" and would a Jaguar specialist do that"
Of course they would, if you think otherwise, then you are deluded.:rotfl:

AdrianC

facade wrote: »

Like I said, easy if you have a 2 poster

<cough> I do.

They really aren't expensive these days - a grand-ish, brand new - and are easy to DIY install. Once it was unloaded, I could even manouvre the uprights from horizontal to vertical and into place single-handed.

Obviously, you need enough height in the garage. I'm lucky - my garage is three-bay, and the ground slopes, so the third bay is lower-floored, same height roof. I've got a hightop (2.7m) VW T3 camper. With it lifted to roof level, I certainly can't walk around underneath it - but I can certainly squat relatively comfortably to work.

Wouldn't touch a D3/4/RRS with yours, though.