Gender Neutral Toilets: Pret A Manger

steampowered

sussexsports2000 wrote: »

I tried to very discreetly to explain to the manager that a lot of women who have been victim of child abuse and rape probably do not want to share unisex toilets.

Lots of places only have unisex toilets. If you go into a Costa Coffee or a Starbucks or any small restaurant or any small pub, 99% of the time they will just have the one cubicle. Things have always been that way.

Provided that you can lock the door, I really don't see a problem.

Was there actually a problem with the toilet - as it was behind a code protected door it sounds like it was completely private? Or was this just a knee jerk reaction to the "unisex" label?

unholyangel

I think theres a bit of confusion that normally surrounds these matters due to having no specific & official terminology.

I've never heard complaints about unisex or gender neutral bathrooms. But I have heard plenty about bathrooms that are simultaneously shared.

I can understand some reasons against simultaneously sharing (not all, some of them have no reason or logic to them). But I do think there's a certain "nous" (or lack of) required to think you can alleviate the discomfort felt by a group of people when deciding which restroom to use (male or female) by making another group feel discomfort when deciding to use the restroom or not (because with shared bathrooms, there is no other choice). Its displacing the problem, not solving it.

unforeseen

Murphybear wrote: »

Our local Waitrose has a big sign on the door of their disability toilet. It says

“Not all disabilities are visible”

Good for them

A few years ago I used some disability facilities and when I came out someone in a wheelchair had a real go at me, saying I wasnt disabled. I explained I had just had the 5th of 5 knee operations, the last one being a replacement. I offered to show her my many scars and explained I had only just stopped using crutches.

The look on her face was a total picture. :rotfl:

Tesco have those signs as well.


I just tell people to look at Schedule 1 para 6 of the equality act and let them decide which of the 3 medical conditions I have.

Murphybear

unforeseen wrote: »

Tesco have those signs as well.


I just tell people to look at Schedule 1 para 6 of the equality act and let them decide which of the 3 medical conditions I have.

Thank you for this, I had a look at it. It was very interesting.

Kim_kim

JReacher1 wrote: »

I don't believe the toilets you use on the train are disabled facilities, they are disabled friendly but not specifically earmarked to be only used by people who suffer from disabilities.

Is there a difference?

I don’t like gender neutral multiple loos.

Kim_kim

onwards&upwards wrote: »

Unisex toilets are fine if the cubicles are solid and secure and ideally with their own hand washing facilities, so little mini bathrooms really.

When they are flimsy cubicles with paper thin partitions, wobbly locks and 8 inch gaps at the top and bottom of the stall, then I can see how a woman with a history of being raped or sexually abused/assaulted would find it distressing to use them with a man in the next cubicle along, or in both the adjoining cubicles, or with a queue of men just a few feet away.

I’m all for gender neutral, think it’s great, but i’m also all for women feeling safe and if you want both you need the facilities to allow it to happen.

The ones in prezzo Crawley have the frosted glass doors!

davidmcn

Kim_kim wrote: »

Is there a difference?

As said, there is sometimes an expectation that the non-disabled should go and find another toilet. That's obviously the case if e.g. you need a RADAR key to get in. But generally there are no such "rules" stated.

dekaspace

I remember about a year ago talking about how local colleges are now changing their disabled toilets to unisex ones and thinking that was a problem and people thought I was wrong. The problem I had was that since the change the toilets started becoming messy, you know the usual, unflushed toilets, toilet paper on floor etc and that meant there was no or next to no dedicated disabled toilets any more.

ToxicWomble

Seat up or seat down tho that is the question !!