Dispute with dealership.

NeverEnough

AdrianC wrote: »

Or, in a 10yo car, might very well not be.

But no-one will know, until the failure is made known and the dealer is asked the question........

wintermute86

Thank you for all the replays straight and sarcastic as well [FONT=&quot];-)[/FONT] I apologise for not been specific. So, car has two faults one become apparent upon collection. I test driven the car after which part of suspension was fitted for MOT. Upon collection car had issue with steering column (You need to turn steering wheel slightly to go straight). So, I suppose something went wrong. Dealer told me to fix it with 3rd parties so far, I had alignment done twice still no effect. Second problem appeared 3-4 weeks after purchase. Car loses power and limps, my mate suspects misfiring on one cylinder. Since it happens randomly it might be a hazard (happening on motorway?). At this stage I want to be fair and give dealer chance to fix both issues. Car has been bought 2 months ago dealer was aware about steering wheel issue from day of purchase. At this stage I want to inform him officially about second issue.
Could anyone recommend website where I can find good template for letter of complain or just point out what information I should include?
So far, I wrote letter stating issues with car and asking dealer to step in and help me resolve them. I included contact details, details of dealer and by when I expect reply.

Many thanks.

Nearlyold

Upon collection car had issue with steering column (You need to turn steering wheel slightly to go straight). So, I suppose something went wrong. Dealer told me to fix it with 3rd parties so far, I had alignment done twice still no effect.

Perhaps your car is following the road camber? How far in degrees would you say you have to turn the steering wheel and is it mostly to the right (clockwise)? Once you notice something it's easy to become fixated on it.

onomatopoeia99

Car_54 wrote: »

It's an offence for anyone to sell an unroadworthy vehicle, not just a trader.

How do I sell my "restoration project" Hillman Imp that is most definitely not roadworthy then?

AdrianC

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

How do I sell my "restoration project" Hillman Imp that is most definitely not roadworthy then?

Simple. You just make sure it won't be driven away...

Then it's perfectly legal.

onomatopoeia99

AdrianC wrote: »

Simple. You just make sure it won't be driven away...

Then it's perfectly legal.

So it's not illegal to sell a car that's not roadworthy then. This is very confusing, I read it explicitly stated that it was, right on this very topic.

AdrianC

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

So it's not illegal to sell a car that's not roadworthy then. This is very confusing, I read it explicitly stated that it was, right on this very topic.

Shock news! Sometimes, posters are wrong and/or oversimplify... Hold the front page.

Let's just put it this way...
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/24881/lot/108/

£9,800 auction price yesterday, inc buyer's commission etc. Somebody's brave.

Bonhams'_get-out-of-jail_clause wrote:

Presented in 'barn find' condition and sold strictly as viewed

I don't think the police are going to be breaking down Bonhams' door for breaching RTA88 s75, do you?

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/section/75

The_Real_Live_Actual_Law wrote:

75 - Vehicles not to be sold in unroadworthy condition or altered so as to be unroadworthy.
(1)Subject to the provisions of this section no person shall supply a motor vehicle or trailer in an unroadworthy condition.

(2)In this section references to supply include—
(a)sell,
(b)offer to sell or supply, and
(c)expose for sale.

(3)For the purposes of subsection (1) above a motor vehicle or trailer is in an unroadworthy condition if—
(a)it is in such a condition that the use of it on a road in that condition would be unlawful by virtue of any provision made by regulations under section 41 of this Act as respects—
(i)brakes, steering gear or tyres, or
(ii)the construction, weight or equipment of vehicles,. . .
(b)it is in such a condition that its use on a road would involve a danger of injury to any person

(4)Subject to the provisions of this section no person shall alter a motor vehicle or trailer so as to render its condition such that the use of it on a road in that condition
(a)]would be unlawful by virtue of any provision made as respects the construction, weight or equipment of vehicles by regulations under section 41 or
(b)would involve a danger of injury to any person.

(5)A person who supplies or alters a motor vehicle or trailer in contravention of this section, or causes or permits it to be so supplied or altered, is guilty of an offence.

(6)A person shall not be convicted of an offence under this section in respect of the supply or alteration of a motor vehicle or trailer if he proves—
(a)that it was supplied or altered, as the case may be, for export from Great Britain, or
(b)that he had reasonable cause to believe that the vehicle or trailer would not be used on a road in Great Britain, or would not be so used until it had been put into a condition in which it might lawfully be so used,

(6A)Paragraph (b) of subsection (6) above shall not apply in relation to a person who, in the course of a trade or business—
(a)exposes a vehicle or trailer for sale, unless he also proves that he took all reasonable steps to ensure that any prospective purchaser would be aware that its use in its current condition on a road in Great Britain would be unlawful, or
(b)offers to sell a vehicle or trailer, unless he also proves that he took all reasonable steps to ensure that the person to whom the offer was made was aware of that fact.

(7)Nothing in the preceding provisions of this section shall affect the validity of a contract or any rights arising under a contract.

The italicised section 6 is the important bit that Car 54 forgot about and/or oversimplified.