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Do I need a physical copy of my tenancy agreement and other docs if I have them in email anyway?

user225688
user225688 Posts: 146 Forumite
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edited 20 November 2019 at 6:36PM in House buying, renting & selling
I went to pick them up from the agents today but the guy who printed them spat all over his finger multiple times while rifling through them to check they were all printed.

I despise that habit. My mum does it and I always snap at her if I catch her doing it with any papers of mine.

Can I just put them in recycling and keep my own digital copy and print it at my leisure?

I.e. is there any need for a hard copy at all? I would prefer to save on paper anyway and the signatures were all done online anyway so it isn't like the print offs are unique.

It is just a heavy load of papers to carry around with you all the time if you don't need them.
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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    You don't need a paper copy.

    If they were physically signed, then if there was any question about whether they were signed, you won't be able to support your position. Digitally signed? No, no need at all.

    But, really, I suspect you are over-reacting due to your strong dislike of "that habit"... I very much doubt he "spat all over his finger multiple times". Anybody who has to deal with large amounts of paper regularly knows very well from personal experience that a little bit of moisture on the finger helps to ensure that all pages are counted, by giving more friction paper-to-finger than paper-to-paper.

    Are there hygiene issues (which is obviously where you're coming from)? No. Many people use a wetted sponge or a rubber thimble, especially in banks where they're dealing with paper constantly. Not very practical for infrequent use like this. But there is no real issue at all.

    You don't need to "carry them around with you all the time", either. Just file them with your other important paperwork.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    I see the OP has helpfully edited the post to a completely different question, thus making AdrianC look like the nutter.
  • user225688
    user225688 Posts: 146 Forumite
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    edited 20 November 2019 at 6:39PM
    davidmcn wrote: »
    I see the OP has helpfully edited the post to a completely different question, thus making AdrianC look like the nutter.


    Lol I have changed it back to the original now (with some furious back buttoning).

    I wasn't expecting anyone to reply in the time it took me to edit it.

    I will make another post about the second query.
  • AdrianC wrote: »
    You don't need a paper copy.

    If they were physically signed, then if there was any question about whether they were signed, you won't be able to support your position. Digitally signed? No, no need at all.

    But, really, I suspect you are over-reacting due to your strong dislike of "that habit"... I very much doubt he "spat all over his finger multiple times". Anybody who has to deal with large amounts of paper regularly knows very well from personal experience that a little bit of moisture on the finger helps to ensure that all pages are counted, by giving more friction paper-to-finger than paper-to-paper.

    Are there hygiene issues (which is obviously where you're coming from)? No. Many people use a wetted sponge or a rubber thimble, especially in banks where they're dealing with paper constantly. Not very practical for infrequent use like this. But there is no real issue at all.

    You don't need to "carry them around with you all the time", either. Just file them with your other important paperwork.

    Yes I am a germaphobe with regard to 'that'. I am always going to be thinking about that persons residue on those papers any time I look at them now so I will be uncomfortable and find it harder to take in the information.

    From a germ perspective how long till the spit is dead?
  • AdrianC
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    user225688 wrote: »
    Yes I am a germaphobe with regard to 'that'.
    You're going to have to deal with it in the real world.

    There are two options.
    One is to accept it happens, and you probably won't die too many times.
    The other is to demand the world changes to accommodate you and your unusual attitude.

    Three guesses which is more likely to lead to a low-stress life.
    From a germ perspective how long till the spit is dead?
    As soon as it's dried.

    Was there even any moistness on the paper in the first place?

    (BTW, if this gives you the heeby-jeebies, you are really not going to like it one bit when you find out what consenting adults quite enjoy getting up to... :eek: )
  • AdrianC
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    I see the OP has helpfully edited the post to a completely different question, thus making AdrianC look like the nutter.
    I was beginning to think you were the nutter for a moment...
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Spit never dies. Are you referring to any bacteria within the spit?


    Depends which bacteria.


    Why not put on gloves, photocopy the document, then burn the original in a furnace? That should kill all known germs..... dead.
  • vacheron
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    user225688 wrote: »
    I went to pick them up from the agents today but the guy who printed them spat all over his finger multiple times while rifling through them to check they were all printed......

    If it is the general principle you don't like then fair enough, but it it is the the risk of germs etc that concerns you, about 80-90% of any viruses or bacteria will be dead within the hour, and 99.9% of the the rest by tomorrow with everything gone completely in a week or so.

    If this practice offends you so much, how do you manage with birthday card envelopes etc. ?

    edit: Wow, that was a lot of similar replies in the 3 minutes or so it took me to write! :D
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  • AdrianC wrote: »
    You're going to have to deal with it in the real world.

    There are two options.
    One is to accept it happens, and you probably won't die too many times.
    The other is to demand the world changes to accommodate you and your unusual attitude.

    Three guesses which is more likely to lead to a low-stress life.


    As soon as it's dried.

    Was there even any moistness on the paper in the first place?

    (BTW, if this gives you the heeby-jeebies, you are really not going to like it one bit when you find out what consenting adults quite enjoy getting up to... :eek: )

    I would have had no problems with it being an attractive young lady who may have put her saliva on my pages, but I would have no problem kissing them but I would have 'heeby jeebies' about kissing a male (not that there is anything wrong with that -jerry seinfeld voice).
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    user225688 wrote: »
    (BTW, if this gives you the heeby-jeebies, you are really not going to like it one bit when you find out what consenting adults quite enjoy getting up to... )
    I would have had no problems with it being an attractive young lady who may have put her saliva on my pages, but I would have no problem kissing them but I would have 'heeby jeebies' about kissing a male (not that there is anything wrong with that -jerry seinfeld voice).
    Hmmm...

    You do realise that many people could perceive that as it having nothing at all to do with saliva and germs, and everything to do with a little light homophobia...? (I'm presuming you're male...)
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