No debate on the debate?

oddjobbpb

He didn't win because he's an unelectable idiot.

Takedap

And now it's a policy announcement. Shame it's way too late.

Maybe someone from Labour HQ reads this forum???

Here's another one for you Jeremy.

"No, you can't have another independence referendum for X years because I don'twant the voters to make their decision based on the Tory's record. Give my policies a couple of years to settle in then you can judge us"

If they use this,. I'll have to start charging them!!

Takedap wrote: »

OK, I'll start.


Why didn't Corbyn win by a country mile?


With a tiny bit of anticipation & some clear thinking he should have smashed it out of the park.


When BoJo asked ( and kept on asking) about his position on Brexit, he could have turned a perceived weakness into an incredible strength.


He should have turned "sitting on the fence" into a statesman like position of neutrality on the basis that the country is already in a dire situation caused by looking at people simply as being no more than Remainers or Leavers.


His future Government would negotiate a new EU trade deal based on whatever was best for the economy of the country.


His would then be put to a second referendum with the Government's official position being "Here are the facts. Whatever you decide based on current information, we will enact.


That would stop him immediately alienating half of the voters, allowing sensible discussion without accusations of bias & removes the need for MPs to vote against their consciences to have to stick to a party line.


He could have said that there would still be campaign groups for leaving or remaining but the would not be part of an official Government policy or arranged along party lines.


Inform, Educate & allow a free vote whilst being able to make sure that BOTH campaigns stuck to telling the truth. Ensure that the pros & cons of both outcomes are truthfully discussed & reported.



It also removes the idea that a certain amount of people voted for or against simply based on whether they wanted their party to win or if they had voted a certain way just as a protest to give the Government of the day a kicking.


Once he has established this position, then every time Johnson tried making the debate solely about Brexit, Corbyn could have attacked him on the Conservative record after over 9 years in power. No wonder Johnson didn't want subject front & centre.



Job Done.......

SpiderLegs

Takedap wrote: »

And now it's a policy announcement. Shame it's way too late.

Maybe someone from Labour HQ reads this forum???

Here's another one for you Jeremy.

"No, you can't have another independence referendum for X years because I don'twant the voters to make their decision based on the Tory's record. Give my policies a couple of years to settle in then you can judge us"

If they use this,. I'll have to start charging them!!

Is that your attempt at reviving labours fortunes in Scotland?

Sounds like a real winner to me. If there is anyone reading from labour HQ I think they should pick this idea up quick smart.

Takedap

SpiderLegs wrote: »

Is that your attempt at reviving labours fortunes in Scotland?

Sounds like a real winner to me. If there is anyone reading from labour HQ I think they should pick this idea up quick smart.

Just suggesting things that he should have either worked out for himself or been pointed out to him if he had any decent staff advising him.


Simple stuff. And all too late.

fatbeetle

Why didn't Corbyn win by a country mile?

How could he? He has no policies outside of "we'll tax the rich and give stuff away for free."

(Forgetting that the people he wants to tax will be booking flights out once the results start showing he's winning....)

Takedap

fatbeetle wrote: »

How could he? He has no policies outside of "we'll tax the rich and give stuff away for free."

(Forgetting that the people he wants to tax will be booking flights out once the results start showing he's winning....)

As opposed to BoJo's policies of spending just as much but not giving any idea of where it's coming from?


The problem is that we all want good public services but no-one is prepared to say that it costs money.


I'd pay more tax for a better life. But that seems to be election suicide in this country.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

US politics has arrived. With the likes of Gina Miller funding the Lib Dems to take every matter to court when she doesn't like something.

If it's Gina Miller and the courts fault for the illegal behavior, then why do the conservatives want more police? Surely no police would be better?

oddjobbpb wrote: »

He didn't win because he's an unelectable idiot.

Can you be more specific which idiot you're talking about?