How to prove unemplyoment if not in receipt of benefits?

Hellykay

Thanks all. Will pass the info on to him and get him to make sure he is registered as unemployed and see if that makes a difference. Your time has been appreciated!

calcotti

Hellykay wrote: »

@poppy12345 he's not entitled to UC, he was working part time while studying previously and hasn't hit the earning threshold for stamp. He's only 20.

He doesn’t need to have paid NI to claim UC. UC is not contribution based, it is means tested. It may be that if he was working part time when he previously applied his income was too high to be entitled, if he claimed while studying full time he would have been excluded also. However a 20 year old with no income would generally be entitled to UC of £251.77/month (assuming they are not excluded by savings over £16,000). UC is calculated every month so even if he was no5 previously eligible that does not mean he is not eligible now.

Blatchford

Having no income and not registered for benefits isn't "unemployed". It's "economically inactive". I know it might sound like the same thing, and it's pedantic. But the funding criteria for a great many courses are based on eligibility criteria of unemployment and not economically inactive. And at the start of the course or for so many weeks before the course. So even if he now signs on (which of course he should), it may not change the college's position, as these eligibility criteria are usually written by the funders and not the college, and are generally not negotiable.

Spoonie_Turtle

Hellykay wrote: »

Thanks for the reply. He gave in his P45 with all components as a type of proof when he enrolled and they say statements don't count for anything.

Fair enough, good to know for anyone else in a similar position that they don't count.

Blatchford wrote: »

Having no income and not registered for benefits isn't "unemployed". It's "economically inactive". I know it might sound like the same thing, and it's pedantic. But the funding criteria for a great many courses are based on eligibility criteria of unemployment and not economically inactive. And at the start of the course or for so many weeks before the course. So even if he now signs on (which of course he should), it may not change the college's position, as these eligibility criteria are usually written by the funders and not the college, and are generally not negotiable.

I've never heard of that before but it makes sense. I suppose someone could theoretically be economically inactive living off an inheritance, so not employed but not actually in need either.

Claiming UC if he is now eligible is a good idea because it then opens up elegibility for other things, even if it is too late for the college course. Maybe he'd then be able to do it if they offer the course again at another time.

General_Grant

As well as "economically inactive" officialdom may also use the phrase "non-employed" for the same thing.