Tenents authorising repairs.

snowcat75

As said, If tenents have authorised repairs and trades to come in without the Landlords knowlage would it be legal to then invoice the tenants for the work carried out?...

DE_612183

I would guess that if you are asked to carry out repairs by whoever is in the property then legally you have a contract with them, and they should therefore pay for any work done.

If they are now saying the landlord should pay - that's up to them to sort out with the landlord.

theartfullodger

Yes, the tradesman should invoice whoever authorised the work.

If landlord receives invoice in his name I would suggest he declines it, politely, in writing. And not get involved further.

You are landlord, tenant, agent, student of law, what?

How much and for what?

Landlord should check wording of tenancy to see what it says about repairs

Landlord is council, housing assoc, private, co-op, crown - what please?

need_an_answer

What type of repairs are we talking about here and at what cost?

snowcat75

Dave46049 wrote: »

I would guess that if you are asked to carry out repairs by whoever is in the property then legally you have a contract with them, and they should therefore pay for any work done.

If they are now saying the landlord should pay - that's up to them to sort out with the landlord.

long story short Tennent is a PITA, doesn't notify me of really big issues such as leaking flashing as it effects her in no way, but when her C/H wouldn't come on because of a simple 3 port valve stuck as its been in the off position all summer, without any notice or authorisation she then called my Plummer out (got his no off the boiler) to fix, something I could have done in ten minutes saying Id authorised to do so:(…..

I plan to S21 after Christmas, although im sure it will need to go to court, this is far from the first strike. and similar incidents have happened before (and worse)

I will of course settle up with the trade, BUT I want to make sure that she knows not to do so in the future as clearly telling her verbally and in writing is a waste of time.

snowcat75

theartfullodger wrote: »

Yes, the tradesman should invoice whoever authorised the work.

If landlord receives invoice in his name I would suggest he declines it, politely, in writing. And not get involved further.

You are landlord, tenant, agent, student of law, what?

How much and for what?

Landlord should check wording of tenancy to see what it says about repairs

Landlord is council, housing assoc, private, co-op, crown - what please?

As above I am the LL, they are private tenancy a family,

Invoice wasn't stupid amounts a couple of hundred quid, however had I been notified I could have easily done the swap (being an engineer) for the cost of the valve £40 and 10 mins time.

The repair needed doing no question no issue.... but its yet another long list of issues I have had with the tenants since she (girlfriend) has moved in.

eddddy

If she called the plumber and made an agreement that the plumber should fix the boiler, then she entered into a contract with the plumber and she has to pay the plumber.

(If she said that you had authorised the repair and would pay, arguably that's 'fraud by false representation' - but I doubt that's worth pursuing.)

Obviously, you can choose to pay the bill if you wish. (e.g. To avoid spoiling your business relationship with the plumber.)

DE_612183

snowcat75 wrote: »

long story short Tennent is a PITA, doesn't notify me of really big issues such as leaking flashing as it effects her in no way, but when her C/H wouldn't come on because of a simple 3 port valve stuck as its been in the off position all summer, without any notice or authorisation she then called my Plummer out (got his no off the boiler) to fix, something I could have done in ten minutes saying Id authorised to do so:(…..

I plan to S21 after Christmas, although im sure it will need to go to court, this is far from the first strike. and similar incidents have happened before (and worse)

I will of course settle up with the trade, BUT I want to make sure that she knows not to do so in the future as clearly telling her verbally and in writing is a waste of time.

You would be within your rights to tell your plumber that you wont pay as you didn't authorise - however that may ruin the relationship you have with them - also tell them only to carry out work with written authorisation from you.

Comms69

snowcat75 wrote: »

As above I am the LL, they are private tenancy a family,

Invoice wasn't stupid amounts a couple of hundred quid, however had I been notified I could have easily done the swap (being an engineer) for the cost of the valve £40 and 10 mins time.

The repair needed doing no question no issue.... but its yet another long list of issues I have had with the tenants since she (girlfriend) has moved in.

To clarify a gas safe registered engineer?


(I ask because you spelt plumber wrong)

need_an_answer

The simple thing going forward would be to remove the sticker or whatever from the side of the boiler giving the details of whom to contact if required.

One set of my tenants did this once and phoned the gas engineers details that were on the sticker of my boiler...he had the foresight to check with us first rather than assume we had arranged the visit. Larger heating companies may not do that so I can see how a tenant could easily think that if there is a sticker telling them to contact XYZ that's what they might do rather than going through either you or your agent as applicable

[Deleted User]

What is a private tenancy family?

Tenants have a responsibility to act in a tenant like manner which means reporting repairs to you. Speak to the plumber, he should not be invoicing you for work you did not authorise. If you want to remain on good terms with him rather than finding a new plumber who won't carry out unauthorised work then pay him and invoice the tenant.

Are you waiting for a fixed term to end before issuing a Section 21 or are you just being nice because Christmas is coming up? Maybe I'm just a Grinch but I would tell the tenants that in no uncertain terms that neither they, not any other occupants, may do this again whilst reminding them of their responsibilities as tenants and that if it does happen again a Section 21 will be issued.