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michaels

JKenH said:

I took my Leaf in for a service today and was relieved of £209. I was surprised to see how many 0-3 year old Leafs there were on the forecourt for sale.

https://www.trenton.co.uk/used-cars/search/?make%5B%5D=Nissan&model%5BNissan%5D%5B%5D=LEAF&distance%5B%5D=0&finance%5B%5D=price&payment-term%5B%5D=36&payment-deposit%5B%5D=1000&payment-annual-mileage%5B%5D=10000&budget-program%5B%5D=pcp&section%5B%5D=159801&pageId=1359806

Edit: 17 of 167 Nissans listed were Leafs so about 10%. 

Top tip, our local nissan franchise will price match on service with local non-franchise EV specialists if you ask them and still do the free MOT as I purchased from them. Sp for example our 6 year service and MOT was £148 rather than the quoted £209.

shinytop

JKenH said:

These survey results announced over the last few days contradict surveys last year when a far higher number of people indicated their next car might be electric. Maybe best to ignore opinion polls and instead look at actual sales.

New survey reveals one in 10 drivers plan to buy an electric vehicle as next car

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/news/uk/3997080/electric-vehicle-next-car-survey/

Petrol remains number one choice for UK buyers as fewer opt for EVs and hybrids – survey

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/petrol-remains-number-one-choice-for-uk-buyers-as-fewer-opt-for-evs-and-hybrids-survey/256474

I wonder when these surveys were done.  I think I've recently moved from the 1st category to the second.  Or rather, I'll stick with what I have for the foreseeable future.    

JKenH

Big increase in BEV sales in February 

http://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

Grumpy_chap

JKenH said:

I took my Leaf in for a service today and was relieved of £209. I was surprised to see how many 0-3 year old Leafs there were on the forecourt for sale.

https://www.trenton.co.uk/used-cars/search/?make%5B%5D=Nissan&model%5BNissan%5D%5B%5D=LEAF&distance%5B%5D=0&finance%5B%5D=price&payment-term%5B%5D=36&payment-deposit%5B%5D=1000&payment-annual-mileage%5B%5D=10000&budget-program%5B%5D=pcp&section%5B%5D=159801&pageId=1359806

Edit: 17 of 167 Nissans listed were Leafs so about 10%. 

From £19k for a 2019 Leaf - Tekna model I think is a well-equipped version too.

My local Ford Dealer has £16k for a 2019 Focus Titanium.

Not an outrageous price differential to go electric...

michaels

michaels said:

JKenH said:

I took my Leaf in for a service today and was relieved of £209. I was surprised to see how many 0-3 year old Leafs there were on the forecourt for sale.

https://www.trenton.co.uk/used-cars/search/?make%5B%5D=Nissan&model%5BNissan%5D%5B%5D=LEAF&distance%5B%5D=0&finance%5B%5D=price&payment-term%5B%5D=36&payment-deposit%5B%5D=1000&payment-annual-mileage%5B%5D=10000&budget-program%5B%5D=pcp&section%5B%5D=159801&pageId=1359806

Edit: 17 of 167 Nissans listed were Leafs so about 10%. 

Top tip, our local nissan franchise will price match on service with local non-franchise EV specialists if you ask them and still do the free MOT as I purchased from them. Sp for example our 6 year service and MOT was £148 rather than the quoted £209.

Edit: 148 was for the major service, minor due now is £125 price match vs £209 list price and MOT included as I purchased from the dealership.

michaels

JKenH said:

Big increase in BEV sales in February 

http://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/

1,300 each of model 3 and model Y and that in month 2 of the quarter - I wonder there are more coming this month?

Grumpy_chap

I was so impressed by @JKenH linking the Leafs I actually went in chat to find out some more.  (The Tekna I referenced above is now sold.)  Anyway, this is how my chat went:

How may I help you?
I see the Leaf cars. What range (mileage) do they do on a charge? Are there different options?

Also, which trim level is entry, mid-level, top spec?
I don't have that information, can I have your phone number?

Either, the young lady presenting as AVA via the webchat was so taken by my character from such a limited introduction she just had to get my number, or the training given is wholly inadequate.

I suspect it is the latter.

These were very basic questions.  It is just, as we are meant to be returning to the office in April, the time is approaching where going for a new car will start to make sense.  I do want to assess the extent to which an EV will fit the bill.  I am entirely satisfied that a TM3LR would suffice, except for cost to entry.  I need to understand the options for lower cost to entry without too great a compromise on flexibility in use.  If the sales contacts are useless, ICE sales will be maintained.  My ideal would be a vehicle that can do return trips from Heathrow to Cheltenham or Dover without needing a recharge.

michaels

Grumpy_chap said:

 My ideal would be a vehicle that can do return trips from Heathrow to Cheltenham or Dover without needing a recharge.

Tesla Model 3 Long Range

Look on ev-database at cold weather highway range - although even this can be an overestimate if it is windy and raining as well as cold.  However if you have a fast charging EV then perhaps having to stop for a 5-10 minute top up would not be a problem.

Grumpy_chap

Thanks @michaels - TM3LR was what I'd identified

Grumpy_chap said:

I am entirely satisfied that a TM3LR would suffice, except for cost to entry. 

It is not strictly EV news, but proposal to expand ULEZ as reported today will be a significant blow and result in the scrappage of my Fiesta:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60608717

michaels

Grumpy_chap said:

Thanks @michaels - TM3LR was what I'd identified

Grumpy_chap said:

I am entirely satisfied that a TM3LR would suffice, except for cost to entry. 

It is not strictly EV news, but proposal to expand ULEZ as reported today will be a significant blow and result in the scrappage of my Fiesta:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-60608717

MY 2005 petrol volvo is currently still ok.  Wondering when the congestion charge zone will no longer be free to EVs (our other car) though and if Westminster will keep the parking discount.

Ideally pay per mile charging for car use will come in (replacing fuel duty and road tax) which can be fine tuned to address issues like congestion, pollution, local need (remote areas vs cities) etc but I can see it being hugely unpopular even if the revenue raised remains the same.