Building on the flood plains

sevenhills

RelievedSheff wrote: »

The Miller Homes development at Yarn Street, Leeds was one such example.

I dont live that far away. Similar houses, with a garage below, they have converted the garages to be living space.
Not sure if they are build on flood planes though.

leviathan

sal_III wrote: »

The problem is that most of the properties are build long ago, when there was less concern about flooding or it wasn't that severe (climate change etc.). I'm fairly sure new building regs are accounting for that.

no no no no no


Stop saying this is down to climate change.
Building on a historical flood plains is nothing to do with climate change. If it's been known to be a flood plain for hundreds of years it has got nothing to do with climate change, it was foretold that it would flood before climate change was even a thing, before the industrial revolution even took place.


Please do not let climate change be used as the excuse that land management by local authorities has been overlooked and that THEY are really responsible for this problem.
Because they bent the rules to allow building in such places to gain extra council tax income and meet the demands on building new homes.


And frankly blame the home owners too.
Anyone living in a historical flood plain and complaining about flooding either never got a proper survey done or ignored it because "the area hasn't flooded in 200years, whats the worst that could happen?"


The same cost cutting arguement used at Fukushima.

AdrianC

leviathan wrote: »

no no no no no

Stop saying this is down to climate change.
Building on a historical flood plains is nothing to do with climate change. If it's been known to be a flood plain for hundreds of years it has got nothing to do with climate change, it was foretold that it would flood before climate change was even a thing, before the industrial revolution even took place.

However likelihood and frequency of flooding IS down to climate change. And also to flood management schemes, river works, etc etc up and down stream.

leviathan

AdrianC wrote: »

However likelihood and frequency of flooding IS down to climate change. And also to flood management schemes, river works, etc etc up and down stream.

Yes, but I would tend to say the latter than the former. Climent change whilst happening is also being used too much as a convenient excuse to divert attention away from such poorly thought out schemes and a lack of maintenance and dredging to cut costs.

diggingdude

Doozergirl wrote: »

I don't see why we need to build on flood plains. Over 90% of the country is green!

Probably green because it is well watered

eamon

House builders (private and public) will build on flood plains because its cheaper and easier. The issue with flooding is usually made worse by an issue upstream that prevents water being stored.


I listened to some people on the radio last week and they were quite adamant that the flooding was much worse due to flood defences built in the Sheffield area a few years earlier.

Thrugelmir

AdrianC wrote: »

However likelihood and frequency of flooding IS down to climate change. And also to flood management schemes, river works, etc etc up and down stream.

Concentrated downpours in a localised area are nothing new. Unfortunately water doesn't magicaly drain away. Not least when many rivers are tidal. Combination of factors causes the real damage. Once in a hundred year events cannot be avoided.

AdrianC

eamon wrote: »

House builders (private and public) will build on flood plains because its cheaper and easier. The issue with flooding is usually made worse by an issue upstream that prevents water being stored.

Houses on floodplains?

leviathan

eamon wrote: »

quite adamant that the flooding was much worse due to flood defences built in the Sheffield area a few years earlier.

I'd imagine it would be. You defend one area and stop it flooding the water can only move downstream to the next most vunerable point.

sevenhills

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Concentrated downpours in a localised area are nothing new. Unfortunately water doesn't magicaly drain away. Not least when many rivers are tidal. Combination of factors causes the real damage. Once in a hundred year events cannot be avoided.

The science of climate change has been predicting more precipitation for over 20 years. The quote below is from the BBC in 2006

How will the weather change?

Globally, we can expect more extreme weather events, with heat waves becoming hotter and more frequent. Scientists predict more rainfall overall, but say the risk of drought in inland areas during hot summers will increase.
More flooding is expected from storms and rising sea levels.
There are, however, likely to be very strong regional variations in these patterns, and these are difficult to predict.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3928017.stm