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Landlord As Tenant?
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Both of us have noticed things going missing or being hidden in bags or underneath their things. I am not talking about cutlery, I mean expensive knife sets for cooking that are easy to disginguish from othersIt says in my contract that I am letting the property, which is defined in the particulars as the house, not just the room. Or am i missing something here?
My lease doesn’t disallow me to use any other part of the property. Neither have the estate agent or landlord told me I am not allowed.
There are plenty of cupboards free for food, they just decided they would rather mine and move my things to an empty one. I wouldnt mind if they had asked.
We aren’t taking up all the storage space. Every cupboard (around 4/5) in the upstairs and downstairs hallway is locked except one which is full with their things and has the boiler in it. I would say it is reasonable to use a few square metres under the stairs to store some things like an exercise bike, especially when there is nothing in my contract to suggest I can’t do this. By that logic I also wouldn’t be allowed use the kitchen cupboards for food which would be ridiculous.
Are you suggesting that the landlord is legally allowed to be a tenant in an AST? That contradicts some things that others have posted so I’m confusedHe doesnt provide notice. The first time he came my flatmate was away and I arrived home to 2 strangers (him and his wife) sat on the couch. Thats an extremely uncomfortable and even scary situation to be in. They have never done an inspection and never requested access or given notice for anything like that.
I renewed it twice because I can’t afford anywhere else at the moment and it is very cheap. If I could afford it I would move!
I think you should have a calm conversation with the landlord, and discuss these problem areas:
The point is, as GM has said, that this is a package deal: rubbish landlord and very cheap rent. All you can do is chat with the landlord to try to improve things. Or move out and find a better landlord, at a higher rent.
As GM says, you won't win in court on the technicality that your lease is badly drawn.
You shouldn't be having your stuff, ahem, mislaid. Try to be tactful about this - don't call him a thief. He may think the knives are his, for example. So, discuss things nicely.
He really has no duty to inform you when he's going to turn up. No more than you have to tell him about your comings and goings. On the other hand, it's reasonable to say that you find it scary when there's somebody in the house unexpectedly. Surely, it's not beyond the wit of man to solve that particular problem amicably?
If he wants to see inside your room, that's natural. Say that you are happy to show him, but you'd like to be present.
You end up with three choices:
1. Do nothing, except sounding off on this forum.
2. Discuss the issues with the LL and sort things out amicably.
3. Find somewhere else.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
If there's loads of post for the landlord showing up then I would mark it all RETURN TO SENDER and put it back in the post.
Could be fiddling various benefits for a start.0 -
He really has no duty to inform you when he's going to turn up.
Does that not contradict the right to quiet enjoyment and the 24 notice period?0 -
The LL is not his own tenant.
Out of interest, would it be legal for a landlord to also be a tenant for an AST? We have argued with the estate agent about these arrangements multiple times in the past and they tried to claim he was in fact classed as a tenant. As far as I know it (i check the gov website earlier) this is only acceptable within an excluded tenancy or lodging?0 -
Does that not contradict the right to quiet enjoyment and the 24 notice period?
No, not at all. He has use of one bedroom. Why should he not use it whenever he likes?
As I said, you are very fortunate that he is only present 2 weeks of the year.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
If there's loads of post for the landlord showing up then I would mark it all RETURN TO SENDER and put it back in the post.
Could be fiddling various benefits for a start.
The landlord has a room there. Why would you interfere with his post? What positive thing would you expect to achieve?
Of course, the landlord could be fiddling benefits. Or he could be from another galaxy. But there’s no Evidence to support either of those things.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
No, not at all. He has use of one bedroom. Why should he not use it whenever he likes?
The point of my post was to find out whether him using the bedroom is legal. Do you know if a landlord can LEGALLY be a tenant in an AST? Thats makes a massive difference to the whole situation0 -
The point of my post was to find out whether him using the bedroom is legal. Do you know if a landlord can LEGALLY be a tenant in an AST? Thats makes a massive difference to the whole situation
He isn't a tenant. He owns the building, so how can he be his own tenant?
But, that doesn't mean that he isn't allowed to enter his own building and use the parts of it that he has retained for his own benefit.No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0 -
Your room is subject to a tenancy, along with the shared areas.The point of my post was to find out whether him using the bedroom is legal. Do you know if a landlord can LEGALLY be a tenant in an AST? Thats makes a massive difference to the whole situation
Your housemate's room is subject to a tenancy, along with the shared areas.
The 3rd bedroom is not subject to a tenancy - it is retained by the landlord.0
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