TRACE Legal Department Letter

JPW1801

I was issued a parking ticket by UKCPM on the private development where I live. My van was parked in a visitors bay with a valid pass in the windscreen as we had friends over and my drive was taken. I did not receive a ticket on the windscreen just a letter through the post a couple of weeks later. They were trying to get me under it being a commercial vehicle parked in a bay thats for visitors however the van is entitled to be there with a pass. I went online and appealed the ticket stating that I was legally parked in a visitors space and I am a resident. The original notice they sent me also had the wrong car park detailed at the top, it was one in East London that I had never been to but the correct picture of my van. I also noted this in the appeal but they made no reference to it in their response. My appeal was rejected and since then I have ignored every letter as instructed in the various threads on here.

TRACE have taken over the case and this is the third letter I have received after ignoring the first two. Its telling me I need to pay the £160 within 14 days from the date of the letter. It threatens "our client has now instructed us to assess and prepare your case to take potential legal action in the County Court". It also mentions instructing lawyers and in all fairness is quite a threatening and intimidating letter considering they apparently have no power and are trying it on.

I understand that TRACE cannot take me to court but if it is passed back to UKCPM then they can which I wasnt originally aware of.

What are the likely outcomes if I ignore this again? I think I would rather pay it than risk going to court and having my name tarnished over it?

I have also made a mistake along the way after reading the threads as I have not kept the letters, I just ripped them up as they came in and threw them in the bin in frustration. I also have no copy of my appeal of their response as I didnt know I needed it.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Coupon-mad

What are the likely outcomes

99% likely that you will win the court case and you will enjoy the experience!

...if I ignore this again?

Just don't ignore a claim! Meanwhile, the action to take is:

(a) read lots of Gladstones threads. These meritless UKCPM claims are ALL THE SAME!;
(b) get a SAR - see the NEWBIES thread! Do that now, and;
(c) dig out your lease and 'permit letters'. Read about your parking rights & show us;
(d) ignore Trace UNLESS they have discovered your new address as part of the process and an old address is still held by UKCPM. If so, the right address for service MUST be confirmed by you, to UKPCM, to prevent a claim that you do not see. That is the only way to risk a CCJ (except if you ignored a claim/court directions).

I think I would rather pay it than risk going to court

Why? There is no risk at all, not even to your credit rating if you lost.

and having my name tarnished over it?

In what way do you think that happens, and why do you think you see us urging all people to defend PPC scam claims? Answer: because names are not tarnished, credit ratings remain unscathed, and no-one is put at risk here.

I have also made a mistake along the way after reading the threads as I have not kept the letters, I just ripped them up as they came in and threw them in the bin in frustration. I also have no copy of my appeal of their response as I didnt know I needed it.

Happens all the time, your case is the same as any other UKCPM court claim thread, only you are not quite there yet, so get ahead of the game and be ready.

Which is why post #2 of the NEWBIES thread tells everyone to GET A SAR, pre-court.

Please read that 2nd post of the sticky thread and send the SAR email now to see their hand, and rub your hands together in readiness for them to bring on the doomed Gladstones claim.

The_Deep

however the van is entitled to be there with a pass.

Why is a pass necessary? What does your lease AST say abour the requirement for a pass? Does your lease not take primacy about a PPC's self-serving T&Cs? Have you read this?

https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/11/residential-parking.html

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Nine times out of ten of these tickets are scams so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra work.

Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]

Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.[/FONT]

beamerguy

JPW1801 wrote: »

TRACE have taken over the case and this is the third letter I have received after ignoring the first two. Its telling me I need to pay the £160 within 14 days from the date of the letter. It threatens "our client has now instructed us to assess and prepare your case to take potential legal action in the County Court". It also mentions instructing lawyers and in all fairness is quite a threatening and intimidating letter considering they apparently have no power and are trying it on.

I understand that TRACE cannot take me to court but if it is passed back to UKCPM then they can which I wasnt originally aware of.

Trace are no different to the other brain dead debt collectors
Verbal Diarrhoea at the very best. Prepare the case ?? hahaha, bunch of cloud dreamers

You do not owe £160 by the way, they have added a fake £60

What will happen is that you ignore Trace, they tell UKCPM they are failures and then UKCPM pass it to the incompetent Gladstones solicitors

Gladstones will also claim the fake £60 which will be ABUSE OF PROCESS and the judges have dismissed such fake claims

READ ABOUT ABUSE OF PROCESS and your defence has already been written by coupon-mad in post # 14 of this thread
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal

IGNORE TRACE ..... wait for the dodgy legal to contact you, then come back here

JPW1801

Ok guys thanks very much for the info I will keep you all updated