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UC and ESA?

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  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,976 Forumite
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    Nannytone wrote: »
    £388.60 per fortnight is the rate that a single person get that received Pip and a severe disability premium alongside ESA.

    VIP says his wife only gets Carer's Allowance.

    I am incline to think that the opp has been claiming ESA as a single person and one with the premiums while the wife claims only carer's allowance and is not included on the ESA claim
    That's my thoughts too. This means that there will be an overpayment of ESA.
  • calcotti
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    edited 24 October 2019 at 5:29PM
    Nannytone wrote: »
    £388.60 per fortnight is the rate that a single person get that received Pip and a severe disability premium alongside ESA.

    VIP says his wife only gets Carer's Allowance.

    I am incline to think that the opp has been claiming ESA as a single person and one with the premiums while the wife claims only carer's allowance and is not included on the ESA claim

    Didn't occur to me to look at amounts for single claimants! Your analysis looks spot on and as poppy says ESA claim will therefore have been incorrect and there will have been an overpayment (£92.20/fortnight at current rates by my calculation - if DWP are willing to do notional offsetting).
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • poppy12345
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    Could the OP have been claiming as a single person, then got married and didn't report the change of circumstances? Unless the OP answers the question, we'll never know.
  • Lenzar
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    Right..to clarify a bit more.

    My wife and I seperated for 5 weeks. By the time the DWP sorted all that out, she'd already come back.

    The UC claim was originally hers, and I've since been added onto it.

    The amount before she left was £296.40 every fortnight.
  • poppy12345
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    Lenzar wrote: »
    Right..to clarify a bit more.

    My wife and I seperated for 5 weeks. By the time the DWP sorted all that out, she'd already come back.

    The UC claim was originally hers, and I've since been added onto it.

    The amount before she left was £296.40 every fortnight.
    That means when she left you were claiming the SDP and wouldn't have been entitled to it when she returned.



    You'll continue to receive the CB ESA fortnight of £111.65 per week. For UC you'll receive LCWRA element, Standard allowance couples, rent, child element and carers element.



    Your ESA and your wife's carers allowance will be deducted £1 for £1 from the UC payment.
  • calcotti
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    edited 24 October 2019 at 5:44PM
    Lenzar wrote: »
    The amount before she left was £296.40 every fortnight.

    That makes sense as per my earlier calculation at post #10

    What is odd is that in your opening post you only refer to deductions for repayment of an advance and for your ongoing ESA. If your wife is getting Carer’s Allowance there should be a deduction for that also (286.65/month).

    Does the maximum entitlement include all the elements listed by poppy:
    • Standard allowance
    • Housing element
    • Child element
    • LCWRA element
    • Carer element

    Incidentally, you said
    Lenzar wrote: »
    My wife and I have just sorted out our Universal Credit claim. The ...the total amount (which is basically child benefit, child tax credit, carer's allowance and housing benefit all folded into one),
    This is not correct. UC does not replace child benefit, that will continue and is ignored in calculating the UC payable.in respect of being a carer UC includes a carer element but the Carer’s Allowance will still be paid separately and taken into account as income when working out UC due as noted above.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Lenzar
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    So my first UC came in and the amount was as expected, around £1.1k for the month.

    Today, however, I received an ESA payment. This was still the old amount of £388.60.

    Was I meant to inform them I'm on UC now?
  • poppy12345
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    Lenzar wrote: »
    So my first UC came in and the amount was as expected, around £1.1k for the month.

    Today, however, I received an ESA payment. This was still the old amount of £388.60.

    Was I meant to inform them I'm on UC now?
    That amount for ESA includes the SDP, which you're no longer entitled to, you need to ring ESA and report the changes that you are now back living with your wife. The amount of ESA that you should receive is £223.30 every fortnight.
  • calcotti
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    Lenzar wrote: »
    So my first UC came in and the amount was as expected, around £1.1k for the month.
    Today, however, I received an ESA payment. This was still the old amount of £388.60.
    Was I meant to inform them I'm on UC now?

    They should have been notified by UC when you claimed UC but it will be best for you to now contact ESA yourself. You will have to pay back any overpayment so put it aside.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
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