Pips taken away

nicnak66

poppy12345 wrote: »

I don't see anyone advise sending in "sick lines" fit notes in other words.

See first post

Sorry but very few people claim PIP fraudulently so your advice about people lying is bad advice, again. Don't forget there's invisible conditions and you can't judge a book by it's cover.

I know a lot more than you think i do - and i NEVER judge a book by its cover its YOU assuming i do.


Why would someone bu a 2nd hand rollator from gumtree to claim PIP? :eek:

people that have mobility problems use them.

Tbh im not liking your attitude to me when all im doing is trying to help someone.

poppy12345

nicnak66 wrote: »

people that have mobility problems use them.

Tbh im not liking your attitude to me when all im doing is trying to help someone.

That doesn't mean they need to use a rollator to claim PIP. Yes, use a rollator or another aid, if needed but not to claim PIP.


I'm sorry you don't like my attitude but i was purely pointing out yet again that your advice isn't quite correct.

Spoonie_Turtle

nicnak66 wrote: »

people that have mobility problems use them.

People with mobility problems arising from mental illness don't usually need rollators though! Blue Badges, yes, but probably not mobility aids.


The perception is that people lie and exaggerate; the media love to perpetuate that myth and the government are quite happy not to correct it. However the actual percentage of fraud for PIP is extremely low, and I don't know if the government's own annual figures even account for the very high percentage of decisions overturned at tribunal anyway.

Edit: Incidentally I actually did buy a rollator from Gumtree when I was really starting to struggle physically and having zero help from the NHS; I did my research, read up on how to make sure it was the correct height and whatnot, but it turned out not to be an appropriate aid for me anyway. Ideally some professional advice is best, even if one still has to purchase the appropriate aid themselves. But this is still irrelevant to the issue of mental health anyway, as far as I know.

calcotti

Alice_Holt wrote: »

The DWP use those reasons ("specialist input from cpn's" ) to deny an award. However, tribunals are more sensible, they recognise that CPN's are in very scarce supply.
The involvement of a CPN or Support Worker is certainly not necessary for a successful appeal on the grounds of depression and anxiety. There is case law around this, which panels will follow..

Completely agree. This recent case makes clear that absence of treatment should not be interpreted to mean absence of impact. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d1b37a8e5274a08e337b250/CE_3496_2017_.pdf. Paragraphs 38 to 47 are the relevant paragraphs.

However a diagnosis and/or support does nevertheless make it easier to make a case for impact.