Sex Discrimination Act 1975

sevenhills

The Sex Discrimination Act 1975 and the further Equality act 2010 was brought in, there has been not been equal treatment of men/women in relation to their pensions.
Can men get back some of the money that they paid in, because in many cases, women had a longer time receiving the state pension?

rawhammered

yes, of course.

lisyloo

The women receiving longer pensions would not necessarily have received equal rights, for example my mother never went to university in the early 1960s (her brother did) and that would have affected her lifetime earnings.

However there is nothing to stop crowdfunding of MASPI and maybe we will see that.

p00hsticks

It would be (theoretically) interesting to see what the average lifetime payout of state pension is for a man and a woman.

Whilst it's true that women tend to live longer than men, and until recently started receiving their state pension at an earlier age, I suspect that it's also true that at present the weekly average state pension paid out to men is higher than that paid to women, due to as number of socio-economic factors (e.g. men will have accumulated more SERPS/S2P than women, women will have incomplete NI records due to lower wages, lack of work opportunities for married women and the pressure to become stay at home mothers or 'housewives' ).

So it is by no means obvious that on average women would recieve a greater total amount of state pension over their lifetime than men.

bostonerimus

The question misunderstands the concepts behind social insurance schemes.

Aretnap

bostonerimus wrote: »

The question misunderstands the concepts behind social insurance schemes.

And the Sex Discrimination Act and the Equalities Act, for that matter.

(Clue: they run to hundreds of pages, carefully balancing competing principles and allowing exceptions where necessary. The text of neither act reads "It should all be equal, innit".)

ArcticRoll

I think it'd be interesting if a same-sex (male) couple were to challenge the pension age legislation retrospectively in regards to a m/f household being able to claim a pension at the age of 60 (under old rules) for the women, but a m/m household of people of the same age not being able to do so until both are 65.

It'd have to be post the recognition of civil partnerships but arguably if a pension is considered or factored in as a 'household' income when it comes to various entitlements and benefit calculations there does potentially appear to be scope that post civil partnerships, if a m/f household benefited from a state pension earlier than a m/m household of the same age that there could be a case of discrimination.

Similarly m/f couples arguing they were disadvantaged vs f/f couples post-civil partnership introduction.