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PCN issued after 14 days but issuer rejects

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  • monkeez
    monkeez Posts: 90 Forumite
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    Redx wrote: »
    Just do what fruitcake said , nothing else , appealing as keeper to the PPC that issued the PCN

    No blabbing about who was driving

    Post #4 of the newbies thread tells people to ignore debt collectors

    POFA is not mandatory , we wish it was , but it's not

    Yes , add that statement to the blue text template

    If the PPC has failed to meet the deadlines for issuing the PCN, does it matter that it is not mandatory?
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    POFA is a law that allows a PPC to chase a keeper for a PCN , even if they were not driving

    If a PPC fails POFA , then they will have trouble making it stick against a keeper

    A driver has no protection under POFA

    So if nforce failed POFA , then as keeper they will struggle to hold liability against you

    In other words , if they want to hold you the keeper as liable , they should have complied with POFA

    Unfortunately , POFA via not mandatory , so they would have to prove that the keeper was the driver , hence why you do not reveal who was driving
  • Well put Redx. Fruitcake clarified and you've explained in laymans terms for me :)
    I'm going to send the Blue Template with the mentioned amendment as Redx confirmed, Appealing as keeper to nForce that issued the PCN.


    I'll update accordingly.

    Many thanks to Fruitcake, monkeez, The Deep and Redx.
  • Fruitcake
    Fruitcake Posts: 59,469 Forumite
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    I think the confusion is thinking it's either Keeper Liability OR PoFA. It's simply non PoFA compliant. I should read up more on this.


    You're surely pulling your hair out with me this thread ;) but I do appreciate you time. I'm just find this more complicated than it really is.

    I don't have any hair to pull out. :o

    It is daunting at first, though it is actually quite simple once you get familiar with it. It took me a while to understand the PoFA requirements so don't worry too much.

    The NEWBIES has a lot of information but it doesn't all need to be digested at once. You don't need to read anything about IPC members or the IAS in this case as these do not apply where BPA members are concerned.
    You don't need to read anything about court, or hire/lease cars, or byelaws except where the car park was at a port, airport, or on railway land.

    So, sift out what you don't need and thoroughly read the rest.
    It's a good idea to write out or print off the abbreviations/acronyms in post 5 for reference as well.
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  • Fruitcake wrote: »
    It's a good idea to write out or print off the abbreviations/acronyms in post 5 for reference as well.
    Yes, these have kept me on my toes!
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