MOT Database Wrong Renewal Date

molerat
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edited 1 October 2019 at 1:35PM in Motoring
My daughter bought a 2014 car in late 2017. The first MOT was carried out on 17 Oct 2017. They had the next MOT done a couple of weeks early on 29 Sep 2018. Knowing how the system works they put a note in the calendar for 16 Oct 2019. Booked an MOT for Sat 5th and whilst going through their paperwork then checking on line found the MOT expired on 28th. So what happened there ?

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  • Check the car's MoT history online and see if you get any clue?
  • Ant555
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    edited 1 October 2019 at 1:35PM
    molerat wrote: »
    and whilst going through their paperwork then checking on line

    Is there a paper MOT certificate? if so are you saying the expiry date is different to the online system?

    It could be that the garage that did the MOT on 28th september 2018 put the wrong date in - I thought the online system automatically sorted out the dates but maybe they have to type a date in and got it wrong.

    If you go to the online mot checker
    https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-history

    It shows both the date tested and the date of expiry for each MOT test recorded.
  • molerat
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    edited 1 October 2019 at 1:35PM
    The on line record shows exactly as I put in the op. The paper receipt shows the Sep expiry.

    17 Oct 17 exp 16 Oct 18
    29 Sep 18 exp 28 Sep 19


    I also thought there was no manual date input required, all done by the system.
  • droopsnoot
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    molerat wrote: »
    I also thought there was no manual date input required, all done by the system.

    Is it possible that, when the 2018 test was done, the online MOT testing system was unavailable for some reason? I would have thought that when the test was updated once the service came back, it should then have the correct dates on it.


    Have you asked the MOT test station who did the test in 2018 for their comments?
  • AdrianC
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    molerat wrote: »
    My daughter bought a 2014 car in late 2017. The first MOT was carried out on 17 Oct 2017. They had the next MOT done a couple of weeks early on 29 Sep 2018. Knowing how the system works they put a note in the calendar for 16 Oct 2019. Booked an MOT for Sat 5th and whilst going through their paperwork then checking on line found the MOT expired on 28th. So what happened there ?
    They didn't look at the expiry date on the MOT last year. That's what happened there...

    The tester didn't carry forward the unexpired <30day period. He should have. Bad tester, no biscuit for tester. One thought - had they changed the plate on the car between Oct 17 and Sept 18?

    They didn't bother looking at the paperwork, so didn't notice. It's now too late to do anything about it.
  • Jumblebumble
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    edited 2 October 2019 at 4:01PM
    AdrianC wrote: »
    They didn't look at the expiry date on the MOT last year. That's what happened there...

    The tester didn't carry forward the unexpired <30day period. He should have. Bad tester, no biscuit for tester. One thought - had they changed the plate on the car between Oct 17 and Sept 18?

    They didn't bother looking at the paperwork, so didn't notice. It's now too late to do anything about it.
    I was under the impression that the MOT computer system has automatically set expiry for 12 months from the last expiry for many a year but maybe I am mistaken
    The DVSA can be really stupid about this kind of issue
    I have a lease car registered on 28 April 2016 It was presented for its first MOT on 3 April 2019
    The MOT station could not find the Car on the MOT system from the VIN and so MOTed the Car up to 2nd April
    I complained to DVSA who told me if i took the V5 to the MOT station they could change it.
    I can't as the lease company have the V5
    This then left me with 3 weeks short but worse the MOT website claiming the car was first registered in 3 April which was not true which concerned me greatly as I am considering buying the car and did not want discrepancies making someone in future think the car was a ringer
    This situation totally confused the DVSA.
    They said they had no way of checking with the DVLA for the correct first date of registration (I wonder if the jackass who told me this really believed it himself)
    After me making a lot of noise and three weeks later they corrected it but did not have the manners to tell me.

    My point is that this sounds like the OP's situation but my MOT station did absolutely nothing wrong.
  • facade
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    As above, it is possible that the VIN number has a typo. Check the VIN number on the V5 against that of the car.
    There is some mechanism for an MOT tester to manually enter a VIN number when it is an obvious typo (like a double digit or an 8 is a 3 etc.), this might cause the problem, although they really ought to tell you that is what they did, so you can put it right.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • molerat
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    edited 2 October 2019 at 3:38PM
    AdrianC wrote: »
    They didn't look at the expiry date on the MOT last year. That's what happened there...

    The tester didn't carry forward the unexpired <30day period. He should have. Bad tester, no biscuit for tester. One thought - had they changed the plate on the car between Oct 17 and Sept 18?

    They didn't bother looking at the paperwork, so didn't notice. It's now too late to do anything about it.
    Yes to the plate change but another car in the family has had 2 different personal plates swapping back to the original in between and all the MOT dates line up (and this plate was on that other car). No big deal really except she had been driving the car for 3 days with no MOT, luckily she can use another car for the rest of the week.


    Does the tester have any input in carrying forward the expiry date, I thought it was always done automatically on the system.
  • zagfles
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    What was the first registration date of the car? If, say, it was 1 Nov 2014, then the first MOT should have expired 1 Nov 2018, meaning the second MOT was carried out too early to get the unexpired time added
  • Jumblebumble
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    facade wrote: »
    As above, it is possible that the VIN number has a typo. Check the VIN number on the V5 against that of the car.
    There is some mechanism for an MOT tester to manually enter a VIN number when it is an obvious typo (like a double digit or an 8 is a 3 etc.), this might cause the problem, although they really ought to tell you that is what they did, so you can put it right.
    There was no problem with the VIN it was just that it did not exist on the MOT computer system
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