smart (hive/nest) heating control advantages

iammumtoone

I am thinking of getting a hive as currently I don't have any thermostatic control in my house so it is easier to get a remote one than have the hassle/expensive of installing wires to the room thermostat.

Its got my thinking how/why people use then. I want a room thermostat as I intend to set it at a temperature and leave it on permanently. I believe this is the most efficient way to keep a house warm (or has this advice changed since it came out?)

If I plan to do the above then the smart features on the hive are unless to me. I am genuinely curious how/why smart features on a heating system are an advantage. I know I will be able to turn it on/off via an app but if the thermostat is set to go on/off at a certain temperature, why is that feature useful? as a standard un smart thermostat will do that.

Those that have them please educate me on the advantages and how you use yours as I want to make full use of it. Normally I am an gadget person.

Thanks

jk0

I'd get the wired thermostat IIWY. It will last years. A hive/nest or other wireless system? Five years maybe until it mysteriously stops working.

iammumtoone

jk0 wrote: »

I'd get the wired thermostat IIWY. It will last years. A hive/nest or other wireless system? Five years maybe until it mysteriously stops working.

the boiler is in an 'out house' off the kitchen. The wire would need to go through the kitchen and dinning room to get to living room.

I don't really want trunking on the walls.

Any idea how much it would cost for a basic wall thermostat that needs to be wired in?

The_Fat_Controller

Leaving the heating on all the time at the same temperature is not economical.

Do you have Thermostatic Radiator Valves ? That would be a good first step.

I have a programmable thermostat which has 6 periods that can be set per day, which was great when I was working shifts.

It is wireless and has worked faultlessly for 10 years.

jk0

iammumtoone wrote: »

the boiler is in an 'out house' off the kitchen. The wire would need to go through the kitchen and dinning room to get to living room.

I don't really want trunking on the walls.

Any idea how much it would cost for a basic wall thermostat that needs to be wired in?

£13 for this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Drayton-24028-Combi-Stat-Thermostat-White/dp/B00BTCV5EI/ref=pd_day0_hl_60_3/260-7777600-2830057?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00BTCV5EI&pd_rd_r=7eb4a604-2485-4c76-9dcc-56798883b936&pd_rd_w=c0QHM&pd_rd_wg=xRlHL&pf_rd_p=92d624bb-a334-423e-8722-8024dd09667f&pf_rd_r=RE6TCPVYXJ3P5WATMTTX&psc=1&refRID=RE6TCPVYXJ3P5WATMTTX


You need to be creative with routing the wire. Under cabinets maybe, or under floorboards.

BUFF

iammumtoone wrote: »

I want a room thermostat as I intend to set it at a temperature and leave it on permanently. I believe this is the most efficient way to keep a house warm (or has this advice changed since it came out?)

If I plan to do the above then the smart features on the hive are unless to me. I am genuinely curious how/why smart features on a heating system are an advantage. I know I will be able to turn it on/off via an app but if the thermostat is set to go on/off at a certain temperature, why is that feature useful? as a standard un smart thermostat will do that.

A smart thermostat should have weather compensation, also learn your routines & how fast your house warms up/cools down & adjust accordingly.

Talldave

A wireless programmable thermostat would work for you. I've used Honeywell ones in the past. They have optimum start, party mode, holiday mode - all good stuff.

The two benefits of an app on your phone(s) are the ability to control the heating from your phone(s) and geolocation that shuts off the heating if you're out. The counter arguments are that if you configure a programmable thermostat to suit your lifestyle then you don't need to tweak the heating from your phone. And geolocation is not perfect- if you go out for the evening, the babysitter and your kids freeze.