Tenant in Hospital

AdrianC

ps2659 wrote: »

No strop but would have been polite to have been informed she was in hospital and relatives I have never met staying in the bungalow I was not informed until after they stayed in the property

No, it's totally and utterly irrelevant. None of your business.

Would you have expected to be informed if the tenant had been at home and they'd stayed with her?

Comms69

AdrianC wrote: »

No, it's totally and utterly irrelevant. None of your business.

Would you have expected to be informed if the tenant had been at home and they'd stayed with her?

I can only assume the OP sends the tenant a copy of their visitors book every week

G_M

Rarely have I read here a more shocking post!

ps2659 wrote: »

I own a property and the tenant is in hospital and not expected to come out,
so naturally you are sympathetic, and keen to help in whatever way you can?

we have just received a phone call from her relatives to inform us of this, the relatives live over 100 miles away and are quite elderly themselves they have informed me that they have stayed at the property overnight however, they never asked me if this was OK and just took it for granted it would be whilst visiting her.
As indeed, any normal person would.
Why on earth do you think they needed to ask you if this was OK?

They asked if we would rent out the property furnished when she passes away as they expect this to be very soon
So they want to take over the tenancy in due course? OK, bit premature, but something for you toconsider.

I said no assuming they do not want to clear the property when the inevitable happens just the items they want,
???No idea why you assume this.

can anyone tell me where I stand in regard to the comments listed above.
If it were me I would
* express my sympathies and my hope that the tenant make a recovery
* ask if there is anything I can do to help
* ask them what they intend to do if the worst happens ie request an end to the tenancy or take it over themselves (though that last option seems a bit premature.....)

Also what happens if the rent fails to be paid,
* on the one hand, that is rent arrears so you can deal with it in the normalway, or
* on the other hand, the tenant is in hospital, so I'd contact the parents sympathetically to explain and ask if they can help their offspring financially with the rent for now
* but you are worrying about something that may never happen


the relatives have told me they have turned on the heating so it will be warm next time they come down to stay which they expect to be very soon,
fair enough- their choice

who pays the gas and electric bills if she passes away as expected in the next day or so,
her Estate

she has been a really good tenant but not sure about the relatives as we do not know them.
Any help appreciated Thanks in advance.

You sound...... lovely! I wish all landlords were like you!

G_M

ps2659 wrote: »

No strop but would have been polite to have been informed she was in hospital and relatives I have never met staying in the bungalow I was not informed until after they stayed in the property she was in hospital they wanted to know about the furniture as I guess they only want items they want and not the bulky items.

You clearly misunderstand, completely, the basis of tenancy law.

The tenant does not have to live there every night. They can go on holiday, stay over at their loved-one's home, go to hospital, or (yes) go to prison. It does not affect their tenancy or their rights (so long as rent is paid) and they do not have to tell you.

Similarly they can have visitors to stay, whether they are also there at the same time or not. That could be their loved one(s), friends, family, whoever- and they don't have to tell you.

As for your guesses as to their motives, so stop guessing. Ask them.

grumiofoundation

ps2659 wrote: »

No strop but would have been polite to have been informed she was in hospital and relatives I have never met staying in the bungalow I was not informed until after they stayed in the property she was in hospital they wanted to know about the furniture as I guess they only want items they want and not the bulky items.

Don’t really think you have any right to talk about people being polite.

System

As you say that the property was let unfurnished, I would suggest that when the family notify you of your tenant's passing that you give them some time to clear the the property. They may need to organise a removal company so don't just give them 24 hours or something like that!! I doubt you are as cold-hearted as you come across, and are just thrown out by an unusual set of circumstances.

I imagine that you have your tenant's deposit somewhere safe, so hopefully you will be able to see your way clear to either using it to cover the rent whilst the family are dealing with their bereavement as well as the practical side of things (furniture moving, etc) or at least have a friendly, compassionate chat to them about what their plans are.

As said above, the tenant's family will probably settle up, either personally (if they can afford it) or via the deceased estate for any outstanding bills whether to you, or to the utility companies / gas / electric etc. If the money is to be paid from the estate, it may be some time before any money comes through from the estate so be patient.

diggingdude

What did it say on the course you took to learn how to be a landlord? Oh....I forgot, any old Tom !!!! or Harry can be a landlord whereas you have to take an exam and be licensed to guard bottles of pop

Comms69

Mrs_Arthur_Crown wrote: »

As you say that the property was let unfurnished, I would suggest that when the family notify you of your tenant's passing that you give them some time to clear the the property. They may need to organise a removal company so don't just give them 24 hours or something like that!! - the Landlord cannot end the tenancy, ever. So that advice, whilst well meaning, is wrong. I doubt you are as cold-hearted as you come across, and are just thrown out by an unusual set of circumstances.

I imagine that you have your tenant's deposit somewhere safe -if not, the Op is liable to be sued for upto 3x the value, so hopefully it's protected. , so hopefully you will be able to see your way clear to either using it to cover the rent whilst the family are dealing with their bereavement as well as the practical side of things (furniture moving, etc) or at least have a friendly, compassionate chat to them about what their plans are.

As said above, the tenant's family will probably settle up for any outstanding bills whether to you, or to the utility companies / gas / electric etc.

And if not, that is one of the risks of business

swingaloo

Something else to consider-

The relatives live so distance away and are elderly themselves so its quite possible that they will not want to take on the responsibility of clearing the property. There is nothing to stop them from taking the odd bits they want and abandoning the rest, they are under no obligation to clear the house.

Clutterfree

ps2659 wrote: »

No strop but would have been polite to have been informed she was in hospital and relatives I have never met staying in the bungalow I was not informed until after they stayed in the property she was in hospital they wanted to know about the furniture as I guess they only want items they want and not the bulky items.

Their relative is DYING!
I’m sure they had more important things to worry about than to inform you of their plans before visiting their loved one!