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Waiters/restaurant workers (especially in chains) - tell us, who gets the tips?

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  • I worked in Scotland for 2 different Albert Roux restaurant and the tips were shared among all staff each month on the payslip.
    There was a "point" system, the higher position, the better share.
    If you were personnaly given a tip you had to give it back to the manager to be counted at the end of the day.

    I guess if given out of the premises they couldn't claim it as one comment points ;) but then the premises were very big due to countryside location!

    Chefs are usually paid more than waiting staff( e.g job ads) and that is why tips are in some places only given to waiting staff .

    Some owners take a share (how much, it doesn't say) of the declared tips in the UK ,because of the work involved- in collecting, storing and sharing them- is the explanation given.

    In my current restaurant tips are paid to everybody 3 months later, 4 times a year, and the amount so far is between £50-100 each 3 months + NI paid on top of it.
    It is not much but always appreciated.
  • Tammykitty
    Tammykitty Posts: 1,005 Forumite
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    Takmon wrote: »
    16 hours a week is barely 2 days work and your just taking orders and carrying plates of food which requires no skills and almost anymore can do. So I think minimum wage is a fair pay for this kind of job.

    I think tipping is an outdated concept and waiting staff should be expected to do a good job as default because that is what they are being paid to do. If they don't do a good job then disciplinary action should be taken.


    I have to say I - I agree with this.


    How many customers in the restaurant are also on minimum wage in a shop, factory, call center or wherever - and they don't get tips for doing their job, and yet they are expected to tip the restaurant staff.
  • sazaccount
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    I HATE the whole tipping culture, I currently live in Canada where it is expected (like in the US) not just on the level service however the MW here is standard it maybe sightly less for bar, servers however this is by $1 or 2 not like in the US where a servers wage maybe $2.50.

    I think it just frustrates me more that tax is also not included so at the end of the meal with tax and tip your looking at $4-5 extra from the menu and if you have alcohol there is an extra tax on top!

    BUT I also work in an ice hockey area as a second job and they actively discourage tipping for the "quick service" the fast food and snack concessions but then pay and encourage tipping for the bar people even though on some events we maybe serving the same beers and wines!

    I make less on my day job than I do on my serving job!
    Thanks to money saving tips and debt repayments/becoming debt free I have been able to work and travel for the last 4 years visiting 12 countries and working within 3 of them. Currently living and working in Canada :beer: :dance:
  • I despise all forms of tipping. When us contractors have the threat of ir35 despite doing it by the book yet people doing the exact job they're employed to do expect tips, all while avoiding tax which over the course of a year could be hundreds of pounds.

    If I got a bonus from a client for just performing my contracted duties HMRC would tear me to shreds and tax the hell out of me for being treated like an employee.
  • keith969
    keith969 Posts: 1,575 Forumite
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    In Japan tipping is considered extremely rude. I wish it was here too.
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.
  • Kim_kim
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    AndyTails wrote: »
    This sounds like awful practice squirrel! Would you be prepared to name and shame?

    Why is it bad practice?

    The employer is putting on a service charge & using it towards the wages.

    What it should be, instead of a service charge, just a comprehensive price to include service and all other overheads and then staff get paid (whatever is the fair rate for their skills) and tax & NI is like all other employees paid on all earnings.
  • Pollycat
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    keith969 wrote: »
    In Japan tipping is considered extremely rude. I wish it was here too.

    Just don't tip then.
  • pollypenny
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    I despise all forms of tipping. When us contractors have the threat of ir35 despite doing it by the book yet people doing the exact job they're employed to do expect tips, all while avoiding tax which over the course of a year could be hundreds of pounds.

    If I got a bonus from a client for just performing my contracted duties HMRC would tear me to shreds and tax the hell out of me for being treated like an employee.



    We toured Scandinavia in the summer. It was refreshing not to have anyone hanging around around for a tip.
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  • sazaccount
    sazaccount Posts: 537 Forumite
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    keith969 wrote: »
    In Japan tipping is considered extremely rude. I wish it was here too.

    No however of you are in a Bar/restaurant in the evening most have a 200 - 700 Yen Table charge or Otoshi
    Thanks to money saving tips and debt repayments/becoming debt free I have been able to work and travel for the last 4 years visiting 12 countries and working within 3 of them. Currently living and working in Canada :beer: :dance:
  • No I think I should get the tips the customer is giving me for looking after them and giving very good service.I pay national insurance on my wages
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