Labours abolish private schools pledge.

zarf2007

Another winner by the Labour Party, and from such sincere working class politicians.....oh wait shami & Diane send their kids to private schools, mr Corbyn himself went to prep school.....typical champagne socialists, do as I say not as I do.....

And the policy is fantastic, let’s scrap private schools, dump the thousands of kids into an already stretched state system, and dumb down the inspection to hide the fact your new system is a joke,.

Round of applause for JC

Thrugelmir

Infringement of human rights. Legal firms will be delighted.

lvader

Next up close and redistribute Bupa assets, wealthy people shouldn't have access to better healthcare.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Infringement of human rights.

Is it? Which one?

Calpol4life

phillw wrote: »

Is it? Which one?

Errrrr how about this one smartie?

Protocol 1, Article 2: Right to education

No person shall be denied a right to an education. In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions

Source; https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights-act/article-2-first-protocol-right-education

phillw

Calpol4life wrote: »

Errrrr how about this one smartie?

Protocol 1, Article 2: Right to education

No person shall be denied a right to an education. In the exercise of any functions which it assumes in relation to education and to teaching, the State shall respect the right of parents to ensure such education and teaching is in conformity with their own religious and philosophical convictions

Source; https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/human-rights-act/article-2-first-protocol-right-education

Where does it say they have a right to choose a private education? That seems to cover things like Sex education and RE offered by state schools.

Calpol4life

phillw wrote: »

Where does it say they have a right to choose a private education?

Er - where it says in line with their philosophical convictions as far reaching as that it....

Face it, you made a smart comment and unfortunately it’s backfired....

Therefore the respondant you engaged first is correct.

Laters

phillw

Calpol4life wrote: »

Er - where it says in line with Their philosophies - as far reaching as that it....

Face it, you made a smart comment and unfortunately it’s backfired....

Therefore the respondant you engaged first is correct.

Laters

That refers to state education has to take their philosophies into account. Not that you have a right to a private education.

Your smart comment backfired.

Calpol4life

phillw wrote: »

That refers to state education has to take their philosophies into account. Not that you have a right to a private education.

Your smart comment backfired.

No - not really, as you made the initial challenge.

How dare you context what the human rights relate to? It may be a persons philosophy that they wish to have their children raised in a private, Jewish, or same sex schools.... they are equally correct convictions.... and thus, part of their human right.

Peace out

phillw

Calpol4life wrote: »

No - not really, as you made the initial challenge.

How dare you context what the human rights relate to? It may be a persons philosophy that they wish to have their children raised in a private, Jewish, or same sex schools.... they are equally correct convictions.... and thus, part of their human right.

Peace out

I haven't dared anything, other than to ask for evidence that getting rid of private schools would automatically be a human rights violation. I don't think that is too much to ask.

What happens if the state provides those schools? They are no longer private, but meet the rights.

I don't think "I have a philosophical conviction my child should be privately educated" would apply

https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/human-rights/what-are-human-rights/human-rights-act/article-2-first-protocol-right-education

Article 2 of the First Protocol also provides that the State must respect the right of parents’ religious and philosophical convictions in respect of education and teaching. This aspect of the right is closely aligned to the right to freedom of religion in Article 9. This right belongs to the parent rather than the student.

What constitutes a philosophical conviction (being a belief, beyond an idea or opinion) includes convictions that are worthy of respect in a democratic society, are compatible with human dignity and do not conflict with the student’s right to education.

This right does not prevent the State from setting and planning the school curriculum, but it does require the matters in the curriculum to be conveyed in an objective, critical and pluralistic manner so that parents’ different religious and philosophical convictions are respected.

It seems to be referring to the content of the curriculum, I'm not even sure it covers the right to segregated religious/sex schools.

Can you stop being so aggressive and actually discuss it reasonably?

SpiderLegs

I think we all know that there is no chance that this drivel will ever become a reality.