On phone when driving

AdrianC

Herzlos wrote: »

But how do you prove which it is from outside the vehicle?

DRLs, dash illumination, sat in the traffic flow...

Car_54

verityboo wrote: »

Drivers aren't even safe on a ferry

https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/police-carry-out-sting-torpoint-3128014

Quite bizarre.



Whether or not the ferry is a highway (very doubtful, but then again this is Cornwall), the relevant laws don't refer to a highway, but to a "road or public place". A ferry is neither.

AdrianC

Car_54 wrote: »

Whether or not the ferry is a highway (very doubtful, but then again this is Cornwall), the relevant laws don't refer to a highway, but to a "road or public place". A ferry is neither.

It's a stretch to claim it's a highway but not a road.

From the article:
"Officers say they are reminding motorists that both the ferry and the lanes leading to and from it are considered highways."
"Several motorists were given words of advice and 4 tickets were issued for mobile phone and seat belt offences. Please be advised that the ferry and the lanes are classed as a highway. "

The ferry is legally operated by the local authority under the same legislation as the Tamar bridge.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/1998/4/enacted

So, yes, I can easily believe it does count the same as any normal road for legal purposes.

Bigphil1474

Surely you can't be done for not wearing a seatbelt when you are parked up? I thought they were only required if the vehicle was being operated, except in reverse.

AdrianC

Bigphil1474 wrote: »

Surely you can't be done for not wearing a seatbelt when you are parked up? I thought they were only required if the vehicle was being operated, except in reverse.

Try taking it off when you stop at traffic lights, and see what happens...

(Isn't the car in motion when on a ferry, anyway?)

Car_54

Bigphil1474 wrote: »

Surely you can't be done for not wearing a seatbelt when you are parked up? I thought they were only required if the vehicle was being operated, except in reverse.

The report doesn't say they were parked. My guess is that the people affected were either driving onto the boat or inching forward in the queue.

Scrapit

I'd argue that taking the seat belt off on the ferry is for safety. Pretty sure there's not much of a risk of a rta once the ferry is under way.

AdrianC

Scrapit wrote: »

I'd argue that taking the seat belt off on the ferry is for safety.

Don't tell me, it'll make an emergency escape quicker if it sinks?

Pretty sure there's not much of a risk of a rta once the ferry is under way.

You're absolutely sure the person behind has put their handbrake on properly?

sevenhills

AdrianC wrote: »

It's a stretch to claim it's a highway but not a road.

From the article:
"Officers say they are reminding motorists that both the ferry and the lanes leading to and from it are considered highways."
"Several motorists were given words of advice and 4 tickets were issued for mobile phone and seat belt offences. Please be advised that the ferry and the lanes are classed as a highway. "

So, yes, I can easily believe it does count the same as any normal road for legal purposes.

Don't private businesses have to pay towards policing if it needed, football policing is certainly paid by the football club.

Scrapit

AdrianC wrote: »

Don't tell me, it'll make an emergency escape quicker if it sinks?


You're absolutely sure the person behind has put their handbrake on properly?

Can't remember a ferry that didn't request the engine be switched off. Also of the few ferries I use most rtas are likely to require you to take your seat belt off whilst swimming. Basically a waste of police time regarding the vehicles on the boat. Approach roads and ramps fine, boat nope.