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  • Talldave said:
    Another gas switch, another "rejected" meter reading and substitution of the all knowing industry body's finger in the air estimate.  This time they're around 430kWh out, which has cost me just over £3 extra with the old supplier.  Not worth fighting about, just annoying.
    Presumably not a great issue in the grand scheme of things for someone like you who professes to use al least that an average on gas in just one day (based on your claimed usage of up to 60,000 kWh pa), and so presumably a whole lot more at this time if the year.

    Perhaps it's your frequent switching that is causing you issues?

    In the above thread from less than 12 months ago, you indicated you were supplied by Pure Planet, but were in the proces of switching to SSE who has a unit rate of just 2.499p/kWh (but a high daiuly standing charge which would not have had a significant effect due to your very high usage)

    But then at some point thereafter, you must have switched to Zog
    Why would you have done that? Zog have never offered anything as low as 2.499p/kWh within the last 12 months, at least not until mid January 2020 (and then only in certain supply regions which I don't believe you are in)

    And now I see you are moving to Gulf.






  • DawnCrush
    DawnCrush Posts: 220 Forumite
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    edited 25 February 2020 at 12:23PM
    According to this explanation given by Octopus, the submitted reading is only really checked to ensure it is not too high. (or lower than the last validated reading), so of you really have benn using up to 60,000 kWh per year, and even ignoring seasonal adjustments (according to the Octopus article, seasonal adjustments are taken into account) then you must have claimed to be use in excess of 400kWh per day on average.
    i.e. in excess of £9 per day, just on gas.
    At this time of year, allowing for seasonal adjustments, it would probably be safe to assume you were suggesting you use in excess of £20 per day just on gas.
    (Making the alleged £3 loss overall even less of an issue)

    You couldn't make it up could you? Could you? Or perhaps you could ...

    Blocked.
  • victor2
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    DawnCrush said:
    According to this explanation given by Octopus, the submitted reading is only really checked to ensure it is not too high. (or lower than the last validated reading), so of you really have benn using up to 60,000 kWh per year, and even ignoring seasonal adjustments (according to the Octopus article, seasonal adjustments are taken into account) then you must have claimed to be use in excess of 400kWh per day on average.
    i.e. in excess of £9 per day, just on gas.
    At this time of year, allowing for seasonal adjustments, it would probably be safe to assume you were suggesting you use in excess of £20 per day just on gas.
    (Making the alleged £3 loss overall even less of an issue)

    You couldn't make it up could you? Could you? Or perhaps you could ...

    Blocked.

    How does 60,000kWh per year equate to an average 400kWh per day? Especially as you then go on to make a seasonal adjustment to the cost of that average usage.

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  • victor2 said:
    DawnCrush said:
    According to this explanation given by Octopus, the submitted reading is only really checked to ensure it is not too high. (or lower than the last validated reading), so of you really have benn using up to 60,000 kWh per year, and even ignoring seasonal adjustments (according to the Octopus article, seasonal adjustments are taken into account) then you must have claimed to be use in excess of 400kWh per day on average.
    i.e. in excess of £9 per day, just on gas.
    At this time of year, allowing for seasonal adjustments, it would probably be safe to assume you were suggesting you use in excess of £20 per day just on gas.
    (Making the alleged £3 loss overall even less of an issue)

    You couldn't make it up could you? Could you? Or perhaps you could ...

    Blocked.

    How does 60,000kWh per year equate to an average 400kWh per day? Especially as you then go on to make a seasonal adjustment to the cost of that average usage.
    It doesn't. It's about 165kWh

    But when you then factor that by 2.5x, as described in the link I provided, that comes to over 410kWh
  • Talldave
    Talldave Posts: 2,002 Forumite
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    edited 26 February 2020 at 12:40AM
    DawnCrush said:
    Talldave said:
    Another gas switch, another "rejected" meter reading and substitution of the all knowing industry body's finger in the air estimate.  This time they're around 430kWh out, which has cost me just over £3 extra with the old supplier.  Not worth fighting about, just annoying.
    Presumably not a great issue in the grand scheme of things for someone like you who professes to use al least that an average on gas in just one day (based on your claimed usage of up to 60,000 kWh pa), and so presumably a whole lot more at this time if the year.

    Perhaps it's your frequent switching that is causing you issues?

    In the above thread from less than 12 months ago, you indicated you were supplied by Pure Planet, but were in the proces of switching to SSE who has a unit rate of just 2.499p/kWh (but a high daiuly standing charge which would not have had a significant effect due to your very high usage)

    But then at some point thereafter, you must have switched to Zog
    Why would you have done that? Zog have never offered anything as low as 2.499p/kWh within the last 12 months, at least not until mid January 2020 (and then only in certain supply regions which I don't believe you are in)

    And now I see you are moving to Gulf.
    I guess I should be flattered that you can be bothered to trawl through 12-18 months of my forum posts to track my gas supplier history - or maybe you're on a campaign to try to discredit me?
    If you'd read some of my posts more carefully, you'd have realised that I lost the SSE deal when we moved.  We took on a property with npower as incumbent supplier, who I refuse to do business with, and so promptly switched to Zog.  As of 7th Feb we're basking in the heat of Gulf gas at 2.37p/kWh (my estimate of annual consumption is 40,000kWh, so less crippling than the previous property and its single glazing).

    The Octopus explanation doesn't really add up (!), since my reading has been increased from the one I provided. Undoubtedly due to the fact that the previous tenants left the heating on thermonuclear 24/7 (one thermostat was set to 34C, which is a challenge for underfloor heating) - not that it bothered them as they didn't pay their bills!  Hence the all knowing (but ignorant) industry body can't comprehend that consumption has decreased because they ignore the impact of human behaviour on their algorithm.
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