Smart meters - can they survive switch now?

qsk

My understanding is that smart meters are supplier-specific: once you switch supplier, they cease to work (ie, readings are no longer sent to suppliers though I can still read them in house and manually submit).
I had to repeatedly reject my supplier's advice to install smart meter for me until they stopped. Now I am switching. No doubt I have to go through this again. I am just wondering if things have moved on and smart meters now work across suppliers?
Thanks.

JJ_Egan

No thats wrong as it depends upon the model fitted .

Gerry1

I'm sure the remote disconnection and load limiting functions will work quite happily regardless of your energy supplier ! :shocked:

Highland76

qsk wrote: »

My understanding is that smart meters are supplier-specific: once you switch supplier, they cease to work (ie, readings are no longer sent to suppliers though I can still read them in house and manually submit).
I had to repeatedly reject my supplier's advice to install smart meter for me until they stopped. Now I am switching. No doubt I have to go through this again. I am just wondering if things have moved on and smart meters now work across suppliers?
Thanks.

AFAIK the top 6 energy suppliers now mainly (>80%) fit SMETS2 meters which continue to work in 'smart mode' when moving to a different supplier - assuming the new supplier takes on customers with smart meters. No idea about smaller providers, but best to call them and ask them if they now fit SMETS2 or SMETS1, if the latter then stay away.

Highland76

Gerry1 wrote: »

I'm sure the remote disconnection and load limiting functions will work quite happily regardless of your energy supplier ! :shocked:

Yes those with smart meters can have their energy supplier remotely disconnected HOWEVER this will only be done as a last resort, the energy companies - by law - still have to follow the same procedures as they currently do wrt chasing up non-paying customers. Unless you think energy companies employ 17 year olds on a YTS training scheme who may decide to remotely disconnect their customers energy supply just for giggles?::eek:

As for

Gerry1 wrote: »

load limiting functions:

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Gerry1

Highland76 wrote: »

the energy companies - by law - still have to follow the same procedures as they currently do wrt chasing up non-paying customers.

You've fallen for the deliberately misleading spin. You're referring to non-payment; I'm referring to energy rationing at peak times because we won't have enough generating capacity as older stations are decommissioned.

If you had checked the facts before ROFL you would have known that load limiting is built in to smart meters. Have a look at Section 4.7 in this specification: "The meter supports a load limiting function which when in operation will provide the user with only a limited supply."

If you don't behave, your lights will go out. Fact.

Andy_WSM

Gerry1 wrote: »

You've fallen for the deliberately misleading spin. You're referring to non-payment; I'm referring to energy rationing at peak times because we won't have enough generating capacity as older stations are decommissioned.

If you had checked the facts before ROFL you would have known that load limiting is built in to smart meters. Have a look at Section 4.7 in this specification: "The meter supports a load limiting function which when in operation will provide the user with only a limited supply."

If you don't behave, your lights will go out. Fact.

Your old analogue meter already has a load limiting function.

It's called a fuse. Fact.

Gerry1

Andy_WSM wrote: »

Your old analogue meter already has a load limiting function.

It's called a fuse. Fact.

The value of the fuse cannot be adjusted remotely, nor would it limit the whole house to 5kW (about 21A), so your point is not relevant. The load limit set by the smart meter can be anything from 0 - 24kW.

brewerdave

Highland76 wrote: »

AFAIK the top 6 energy suppliers now mainly (>80%) fit SMETS2 meters which continue to work in 'smart mode' when moving to a different supplier - assuming the new supplier takes on customers with smart meters. No idea about smaller providers, but best to call them and ask them if they now fit SMETS2 or SMETS1, if the latter then stay away.

1. Even SMETS2 meters may not continue to operate in a "smart" fashion when swopping between the major suppliers. Depends whether the meters are fully integrated into the DCC before the change.

2. Some smaller suppliers eg Better Energy,Yorkshire Energy haven't yet started fitting any smart meters!!

Gerry1

brewerdave wrote: »

Some smaller suppliers eg Better Energy,Yorkshire Energy haven't yet started fitting any smart meters!!

Another good reason to be with Yorkshire Electricity !

Andy_WSM

Gerry1 wrote: »

The value of the fuse cannot be adjusted remotely, nor would it limit the whole house to 5kW (about 21A), so your point is not relevant. The load limit set by the smart meter can be anything from 0 - 24kW.

I'm well aware of a Smart Meters capabilities, but there are currently no tariff's which allow for load limiting, so YOUR point is not relevant. Just because a meter has the ability doesn't mean it will or can be used. You're just another person spreading scare stories about smart meters that simply aren't true.