Do I risk lying on my application to rent?

G_M

fantaman987 wrote: »

Sorry I don’t think I made the situation clear. D doesn’t want to be initially put down as a tenant for the changeover as he fears that he/we will get rejected due to his bad credit.

So basically he’d rather I just apply as if I’m going to be moving in on my own and then we add him as a tenant once I’m safe and secure as a tenant myself.

This is just bonkers!

So you create a sole tenancy (to avoid him being credit checked).
Then you apply to either

* surrender that sole tenancy and create a new joint one (with him being credit checked - so what has been gained?), or
* you Assign the existing sole tenancy to a joint tenancy (with him being credit checked - so what has been gained?),

You can't simply "add him as a tenant"!

Either you/he bite the bullet and apply together as joint tenants and see what happens, or you apply for a sole tenancy and make him your lodger.

BrassicWoman

Agree totally with GM!

zagubov

OP, you don't want to use the term tenant at any point when you're discussing person D. There's people all over this board using wrong terminology that could make trouble for themselves, and you don't want to become one.

D can become your lodger, but you're not adding him as your or the LL's tenant.

As he's a good pal, you should check with pal B what his "house rules were", and check whether you're comfortable with them and what you may need to change (e.g. visitors, guests, shared facilities, noise, cleaning/duties, washing up, giving notice, needing to let you have a key to his room if it's got a lock).

Many are reminding you about the £7.5k limit, as he's passing the rent on through you and the tax people will se it as your income.

Cakeguts

D isn't a tenant he is a lodger. So there is a strong possibility that when he gives notice to the landlord that he is moving out D will also have to move out at that time as well. As a lodger D's landlord is B not the owner of the property. So when B gives notice to move he is also ending D's lodger agreement to live in that property.



The whole thing sounds very complicated to me. It would be easier for you to just find somewhere else without B's lodger entering into the situation. B can't let D stay on when B moves out because D doesn't have any tenancy with the landlord who owns the property his landlord is B. Anyone else also living in the house who is not on the tenancy agreement is a lodger of B so they would have to go as well.

zagubov

It depends if the LL wants to inspect the house between tenants.
I know it has been common in London for changeovers in tenancies to be seamless and have little LL involvement.

If friend B had a deposit to reclaim, the LL may need to see the house empty, so D may have to genuinely vacate his possessions and return them later.

D's tenure is extremely, well, tenuous. As a mere lodger of B his right to stay expires when B leaves. You can restore it immediately you move in, but again his right to occupy the premises depends on your continuous occupation and permission.