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Rented out property .. garden a mess

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  • sal_III
    sal_III Posts: 1,953 Forumite
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    muhandis wrote: »
    In your place I would ask the neighbours to talk to the tenants if they wish to. It's not really your problem. If you entertain these kind of things from the neighbours, next they'll be complaining about the noise the tenants' kids make.
    Next time someone posts "Neighbour from hell" Landlord is not doing anything we will know who gave the idea to the LL :rotfl:
  • Andysandy
    Andysandy Posts: 86 Forumite
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    I see what you are saying but the way I read it, an overgrown garden could come under "ensure that yards and gardens are maintained in reasonable repair and are kept in a clean and tidy condition"

    Absolutely right, you can do what you want as an owner-occupier, the council can't do anything.

    But, as a landlord, to rent out my flat in the borough, I have to get a license from the council and to do that I have to adhere to the conditions that I sign up to, including the ones I listed. Councils (at least in the area of London that I do business in) are awash with exorbitant fees from license fees which are ring-fenced for administering and enforcing the licensing scheme. So a neighbour with nothing better to do could in theory create a bit of hassle for the landlord.
    But that doesn't really tackle the problem of an overgown garden,that talks more of infestations and discarded large items ...it does not deal with what the OP describes as simply a garden that hasn't been looked after.

    I also see this refers to tenancies...so how does that work if im the owner occupier of a freehold property with an overgrown garden...theres not that much that the council would be able to do about it until it was proved to be infested?
  • Comms69
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    Andysandy wrote: »
    I see what you are saying but the way I read it, an overgrown garden could come under "ensure that yards and gardens are maintained in reasonable repair and are kept in a clean and tidy condition"

    Absolutely right, you can do what you want as an owner-occupier, the council can't do anything.

    But, as a landlord, to rent out my flat in the borough, I have to get a license from the council and to do that I have to adhere to the conditions that I sign up to, including the ones I listed. Councils (at least in the area of London that I do business in) are awash with exorbitant fees from license fees which are ring-fenced for administering and enforcing the licensing scheme. So a neighbour with nothing better to do could in theory create a bit of hassle for the landlord.



    Can you clarify how one would repair or clean grass? Tidy quite clearly refers to rubbish.
  • Andy...thankfully licences haven't got to my bit of the country yet....

    Whilst they as licences may claim to tidy things up I cant fail to think that actually some licences do more harm than good in the long run...
    just how do you clean grass?


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  • Comms69 wrote: »
    Can you clarify how one would repair or clean grass? Tidy quite clearly refers to rubbish.

    Well theres an order for you to keep your bushes trimmed comms….
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  • Andysandy
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    I'm not sure what you want me to say! :)

    As I've said, to me when I see "gardens are maintained in reasonable repair and are kept in a clean and tidy condition" that means a garden that is not overgrown.

    I fully accept that you don't see it that way.
    Comms69 wrote: »
    Can you clarify how one would repair or clean grass? Tidy quite clearly refers to rubbish.
  • Andysandy
    Andysandy Posts: 86 Forumite
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    Well, all I can say is that you are very lucky!

    I'm not against selective licensing per se but just wish councils gave LLs clear guidance and information on what is expected. You can go on the website and see 3 different documents saying that you need to the the same thing in 3 different ways.
    Andy...thankfully licences haven't got to my bit of the country yet....
  • Depends on what kind of landlord you want to be.
    Some would use it as an opportunity to go around and check out for other concerns (eg cannabis farm).
    Others prefer to be hands off.

    My relative is a BTL landlord and he generally knows his tenants quite well. They often work together. That can be an advantage and it's worked well for him (apart from one recent problem).
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    Well theres an order for you to keep your bushes trimmed comms….



    Literally don't know how to respond to that one!
  • muhandis
    muhandis Posts: 994 Forumite
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    And what a problem that is! :eek:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6036975
    My relative is a BTL landlord and he generally knows his tenants quite well. They often work together. That can be an advantage and it's worked well for him (apart from one recent problem).
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