Euro Car Parks - Final Notification Letter (but the first I've heard about it)

Kenco5

I've read the newbie thread but couldn't see advice for this situation.
So I've just received a final notification letter for a PCN of £85 for going over a two-hour parking limit about 6 weeks ago. But I was never issued with a ticket or any other letters from them - this is all new to me. Should I follow the standard appeal procedure, or should I adjust it saying I've not had anything other than this letter?

waamo

Is the address on your V5c correct? Please actually check as to often swear blind it is only to come back later saying they were mistaken.

Kenco5

Yes, correct address and registration number.

waamo

You can try sending them the appeal template but they may well claim you are out of time. This happens frequently. Post from any ppc seems to go missing extremely regularly. A cynic might say it's a deliberate ploy to stop you appealing.

Always try for a landowner cancellation. If you can't do either just ignore anything except a genuine LBC or court papers. This is highly unlikely with Euro.

Finally I'm sure The Deep will be along soon with some excellent advice.

Kenco5

Can I get a landowner cancellation if A) I don't even know if I parked there that day and If I did park there, I probably don't have a receipt to prove I did use their shop as it was quite a while ago. But even if I did park there, I certainly wouldn't have been there for almost 3 hours as they are claiming.

Redx

You should try, because that is your best option

If you don't then you are left going through the motions of 2 appeals and possibly a court claim in front of a judge

Hence why you should try for a landowner cancellation

They are not claiming that you were there

They are claiming that a vehicle registered to you was there over the prescribed limit for parking on site, no matter where YOU were at the time

Kenco5

On the newbie thread it says this:

"If they are a firm which alleges 'keeper liability' under the POFA 2012 (which they don't have to!) the a postal PCN must arrive by day 14 if there was no windscreen ticket."

Does this apply in my case, since I never had a windscreen ticket (or any other letter) until now, 45 days after the alleged breach?

DoaM

Dear ECP,
Thank you for your notice letter reference ZZZ dated XXX which is the first notification received by myself, the registered keeper of vehicle YYYY, regarding this matter. Therefore I am treating this as the Notice To Keeper per the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and am appealing this notice as set out below.

[Then use the standard template]

That help?

And try for a landholder cancellation anyway.

PS - is it possible that your vehicle visited that location twice on the same day? If yes then this could be TWO visits recorded as a single visit (double-dipping), whereby they record the first entrance and last exit and treat them as one long visit.

BrownTrout

ECP WILL accept appeals when the reminder letter is received

waamo

Kenco5 wrote: »

On the newbie thread it says this:

"If they are a firm which alleges 'keeper liability' under the POFA 2012 (which they don't have to!) the a postal PCN must arrive by day 14 if there was no windscreen ticket."

Does this apply in my case, since I never had a windscreen ticket (or any other letter) until now, 45 days after the alleged breach?

They will claim they sent it. Appeal with the template.

Kenco5

DoaM wrote: »

Dear ECP,
Thank you for your notice letter reference ZZZ dated XXX which is the first notification received by myself, the registered keeper of vehicle YYYY, regarding this matter. Therefore I am treating this as the Notice To Keeper per the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 and am appealing this notice as set out below.

[Then use the standard template]

That help?

And try for a landholder cancellation anyway.

PS - is it possible that your vehicle visited that location twice on the same day? If yes then this could be TWO visits recorded as a single visit (double-dipping), whereby they record the first entrance and last exit and treat them as one long visit.

Thanks for this. And yes, it is very possible there were two visits on the same day, several hours apart.