Article PPC's use motorists as cash cows

buglawton

beamerguy wrote: »

How do you know they are bonus driven and which private company have they employed

"A contractor has now been appointed by Wokingham Borough Council to carry out enforcement on its behalf."
http://news.wokingham.gov.uk/news/digital-parking-enforcement-maps/

When I see a pair of parking wardens scouring a half empty village car park at 8:30 pm, I'm going to assume that their employer has an 'incentive scheme' and would further hazard, zero hours contracts with the 'incentive' making up a large part of the remuneration.

beamerguy

buglawton wrote: »

"A contractor has now been appointed by Wokingham Borough Council to carry out enforcement on its behalf."
http://news.wokingham.gov.uk/news/digital-parking-enforcement-maps/

When I see a pair of parking wardens scouring a half empty village car park at 8:30 pm, I'm going to assume that their employer has an 'incentive scheme' and would further hazard, zero hours contracts with the 'incentive' making up a large part of the remuneration.

I assume that your are local to Wokingham. Where are these car parks ?

Civil Parking Enforcement is a BPA member whereby incentives like this are not allowed.

Umkomaas

beamerguy wrote: »

I assume that your are local to Wokingham. Where are these car parks ?

Civil Parking Enforcement is a BPA member whereby incentives like this are not allowed.

Civil Parking Enforcement is the process which transfers responsibility from the Police to a Local Authority to manage and enforce parking regulations. It has nothing to do with BPA member 'Civil Enforcement Ltd' (CEL).

Thames Valley Police currently carries out parking enforcement across the borough, but many local people and businesses already think Wokingham Borough Council has CPE powers. The police support this handover because it will bring the Wokingham Borough in line with other Thames Valley councils.

A contractor has now been appointed by Wokingham Borough Council to carry out enforcement on its behalf. This company will also co-ordinate parking permits, penalties (fines), and oversee the appeals process.

I suspect it will be NSL - they seem to be the organisation to which many councils turn.

This is not a private parking matter at all. Fall-out from any of the above would rightly be best dealt with on PePiPoo.

Redx

I see Tesco are losing 4500 jobs due to reduced footfall, yet no mention about parking par@sites driving customers away

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49239916

these supermarkets need to wake up and actually smell the coffee they sell

its not just the high streets

buglawton

beamerguy wrote: »

I assume that your are local to Wokingham. Where are these car parks ?

Civil Parking Enforcement is a BPA member whereby incentives like this are not allowed.

From the same link I posted earlier
"CPE covers double and single yellow lines, loading restrictions, double parking or parking across dropped kerbs, parking in a residents’ parking zone without a permit, and overstaying in time-limited bays. It will give the borough council the muscle to tackle congestion and improve road safety and make parking fairer for everyone."

So CPE notably doesn't cover car parks that I as a community charge taxpayer help to fund. Or is that covered by 'time limited bays'? Our council is being chary with information.

beamerguy

buglawton wrote: »

From the same link I posted earlier
"CPE covers double and single yellow lines, loading restrictions, double parking or parking across dropped kerbs, parking in a residents’ parking zone without a permit, and overstaying in time-limited bays. It will give the borough council the muscle to tackle congestion and improve road safety and make parking fairer for everyone."

So CPE notably doesn't cover car parks that I as a community charge taxpayer help to fund. Or is that covered by 'time limited bays'? Our council is being chary with information.

Send the council a FOI request

RobinofLoxley

The_Deep wrote: »

PPCs are not alone, there seems to be a rip off culture in Britain which does not exist in most other counties.

Exactly this.

I was recently in the U.S.A. for a few weeks driving in diffferent cities. I parked in malls, retail type parks, shopping centres, hotels, stores, supermarkets etc.. Nowhere did I come across any car parks with stupid T&C's along with extorionate 'fines' for breaching them. No time limits, no ANPR cameras, no having to enter you VRM in terminals or such like. No 'fines' for having an inch of tyre on the line of a parking bay etc.

I didn't see the use of any parking companies such as the sharks we have in this country that scam millions of pounds from motorists.

I suspect that if establishments such as shopping centres, hotels and other businesses in the U.S. tried to implement what we in Britain have to put up with, the populace wouldn't stand for it. There would be uproar that motorists liberties were being infringed and a massive backlash, against the businesses involved.

buglawton

RobinofLoxley wrote: »

Exactly this.

I was recently in the U.S.A. for a few weeks driving in diffferent cities. I parked in malls, retail type parks, shopping centres, hotels, stores, supermarkets etc.. Nowhere did I come across any car parks with stupid T&C's along with extorionate 'fines' for breaching them. No time limits, no ANPR cameras, no having to enter you VRM in terminals or such like. No 'fines' for having an inch of tyre on the line of a parking bay etc.

I didn't see the use of any parking companies such as the sharks we have in this country that scam millions of pounds from motorists.

I suspect that if establishments such as shopping centres, hotels and other businesses in the U.S. tried to implement what we in Britain have to put up with, the populace wouldn't stand for it. There would be uproar that motorists liberties were being infringed and a massive backlash, against the businesses involved.

I've had similarly pleasant experiences in USA and Australia. It actually encourages you to go shop browsing or cafe hopping.

However there are parking scams starting in USA. There was an entertaining NPR podcast that went into some detail about one - and the scam involved clamping. The clamper would actually lie in wait for the unwary motorist to leave their vehicle and if they crossed a certain line to another store, would get clamped. An ice cream parlour admitted its business was being badly affected but couldn't control the actions of the mall owner.