Get car serviced at main dealer or local garage?

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

Cars are made to incredible standards and then sold by a network of idiots. I have never bought a car with more than a 3 year warranty so for most of the life of the car it has no warranty. So I only miss 2 years of warranty. I have never had a problem. You can always buy dealer stamps on eBay.

So you are suggesting people commit fraud then? Idiotic thing to suggest. Yes they would get caught as all service records are now maintained online.

The Freds. The gifts that just keep on giving.

fred246

It's only the same as a dealer stamping a book and not actually doing a service which is common practice. Dealers will also just stamp books when a service history is needed.

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

It's only the same as a dealer stamping a book and not actually doing a service which is common practice. Dealers will also just stamp books when a service history is needed.

No it is not. You are telling people to buy a stamp to fraudulently obtain things they would not be entitled to. That is fraud. Misrepresentation. A criminal offence. Regardless of the libellous things you are saying about dealers. The dealers will know that a service wasn't done because of the digital service record. If the customer then tried to claim they have, they are digging themselves in deeper. Will you pay their fines and serve their time for them? Thought not.

fred246

When a dealer stamps a book without doing a service the customer is advised to phone citizens advice. Citizens advice tell them to go back to the dealer and ask them to service it. That's all that happens. There are no fines.

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

When a dealer stamps a book without doing a service the customer is advised to phone citizens advice. Citizens advice tell them to go back to the dealer and ask them to service it. That's all that happens. There are no fines.

So you are telling people to buy a stamp from ebay, then they stamp their own service book, and then go to citizens advice saying that they had their service book stamped but they think that the service hasn't actually been done. Then citizens advice will possibly involve trading standards to enforce a service which has a stamp that wasn't put there by the dealer because the owner of the car hasn't actually paid for a service.

Doesn't sound like a clever way of committing fraud to me leaving behind a huge paper trail.

If you are doing your own services and are trying to show that a dealer has done services but you've done it yourself, that is again fraud by misrepresentation.

I have never had a physical stamp in a book for either of the cars I have had. Reason? It's all done digitally now.

Suggesting people commit fraud is not big and it's not clever.

fred246

Just because a garage puts a digital record of a service on a car it doesn't mean a service has actually been done.

Mercdriver

fred246 wrote: »

Just because a garage puts a digital record of a service on a car it doesn't mean a service has actually been done.

It is the statement by the dealer/garage that the service has been completed. You would have to prove otherwise on the basis of probability. You are fortunate you are not naming dealers/garages by name as you would be committing libel.

You are still suggesting that people obtain a service stamp and misrepresent material facts that have a bearing on car values or affect the ability to have in warranty work done, or out of warranty work done on the basis of goodwill.

How do you justify this? Surely not on the basis of your libellous statements about dealers.

Scrapit

fred246 wrote: »

It's only the same as a dealer stamping a book and not actually doing a service which is common practice. Dealers will also just stamp books when a service history is needed.

What are you basing this on?

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I think that a main dealer not doing the device properly is probably very rare as if they were found out by a watchdog they would be in deep mire. You’ve more chance of getting a proper job done at a main dealer than at a back street garage but you do pay more for it.

fred246

They don't get in any trouble at all. Most people won't realise that they haven't had the service done and the garage just pockets the money. Google it. Trading Standards don't want to know. They won't deal with the public. The advice is to phone citizens advice. Citizens advice on their website says sort it out with the garage. So the garage just say bring it back and we will repeat the service. That's what amazes me. The penalty for not having done a service is to have to do the service. One of my colleagues phoned up the credit card company and said I have not had a service that I paid for and he got an immediate refund off the credit card company. The poor servicing standards are the same whether you use a main dealer or an independent.