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Rent Deposit Scheme - deceased

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  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,895 Ambassador
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    It appears that the ex partner of the deceased has no claim - even if she had, the debts of an estate need to be settled before any beneficiaries have a claim on assets within it.

    If it was a joint deposit, protecting a joint tenancy, then there is an argument that the deposit is owned 50/50 between sister and the deceased. As such the sister may have a claim on half of it. How she extracts that 50% without being responsible for putting the other half towards the estate's debts in a fair and proportional manner is a difficulty. It may be the costs of doing so outweigh the benefits of the sister getting her half.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    * Until 2017, they had a joint tenancy with the deposit registered with DPS.
    * In 2018, the deceased signed a new sole tenancy.
    * consequently at that point the previous joint tenancy ended.
    * as the joint tenancy ended in 2018, the deposit should have been returned at that time to one or both of the two joint tenants. That did not happen
    * a new deposit should then have been taken from the sole tenant of the new tenancy, and registered. This did not happen.


    The legal situation therefore is that:
    1) the deposit held by DPS relates to the pre-2018 joint tenancy. The OP as one of the 2 joint tenants, should now reclaim it.


    2) the replacement, post-2018 sole tenancy was set up without a deposit being taken. There is no deposit to be returned in relation to this tenancy.


    Thus the issue of the Estate claiming the deposit does not arise, and nor does the complication of the Beneficiary being a minor.
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,895 Ambassador
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    G_M wrote: »
    * Until 2017, they had a joint tenancy with the deposit registered with DPS.
    * In 2018, the deceased signed a new sole tenancy.
    * consequently at that point the previous joint tenancy ended.
    * as the joint tenancy ended in 2018, the deposit should have been returned at that time to one or both of the two joint tenants. That did not happen
    * a new deposit should then have been taken from the sole tenant of the new tenancy, and registered. This did not happen.


    The legal situation therefore is that:
    1) the deposit held by DPS relates to the pre-2018 joint tenancy. The OP as one of the 2 joint tenants, should now reclaim it.


    2) the replacement, post-2018 sole tenancy was set up without a deposit being taken. There is no deposit to be returned in relation to this tenancy.


    Thus the issue of the Estate claiming the deposit does not arise, and nor does the complication of the Beneficiary being a minor.

    Unless the deceased signed (as lead tenant) an agreement for the original deposit to become the deposit of the new tenancy agreement......
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  • t0rt0ise
    t0rt0ise Posts: 4,505 Forumite
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    Why not apply for letters of administration and then claim it for the estate? Letters are free for very small estates.
  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »
    * Until 2017, they had a joint tenancy with the deposit registered with DPS.
    * In 2018, the deceased signed a new sole tenancy.
    * consequently at that point the previous joint tenancy ended.
    * as the joint tenancy ended in 2018, the deposit should have been returned at that time to one or both of the two joint tenants. That did not happen
    * a new deposit should then have been taken from the sole tenant of the new tenancy, and registered. This did not happen.


    The legal situation therefore is that:
    1) the deposit held by DPS relates to the pre-2018 joint tenancy. The OP as one of the 2 joint tenants, should now reclaim it.


    2) the replacement, post-2018 sole tenancy was set up without a deposit being taken. There is no deposit to be returned in relation to this tenancy.


    Thus the issue of the Estate claiming the deposit does not arise, and nor does the complication of the Beneficiary being a minor.


    The issue ofcourse would be that the deposit may well have 'been returned' on paper to the ex, who immediately used it for the new tenancy.
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