Conservatory sockets, certification needed?

Fentribal

Hi all,
We had a conservatory built about ten years ago and had two sockets fitted in it that spurred of the ring main. Should we have had any certification for these, or is it not needed for this kind of job.
Many thanks in advance

Browntoa

Adding a spur is allowable under part p regulations as long as it's done correctly.

Does not need certification normally

DoaM

The spur sockets are fused - yes?

Fentribal

The two sockets are standard 13a double sockets, the guy wired them out of the back of a socket on the existing ring main so I guess the only fusing they have is the same as all the other sockets on the ring main

Owain_Moneysaver

The work might have been non-notifiable but it should still have been carried out to Building Regulations and you should have been given a Minor Works Certificate by the electrician.

And two sockets cannot be wired as an unfused spur (one single or one double is permitted), so it's likely that the conservatory fitters didn't use an electrician to do the work and didn't do it in accordance with the IET Regulations.

Owain_Moneysaver

Browntoa wrote: »

Adding a spur is allowable under part p regulations as long as it's done correctly.

Does not need certification normally

All electrical work requires certification, either a Minor Works Certificate or a Design Installation and Test certificate.

If the work is done by a member of a self-certification scheme they will also handle notification to Building Control if required. If they are not a member of a scheme then it is the householder's responsibility to notify Building Control if required.

Even non-notifiable work must be done to IET Regulations BS7671 or an equivalent standard of safety.

DoaM

A single unfused spur may be allowed by the regs ... I'd never wire any spur unfused though. (The light in my loft is spurred off the upstairs ring ... I still used a fused switch box for it. I'd never take the risk an unfused spur can pose).

PS - I'm not an electrician, but I'm aware of electrical installation general requirements.

Browntoa

A fused spur is not notifiable

Work can be done by a "competent person" not necessarily a trained electrician.

Then again I'd want ANY electrical work done and signed off by an electrician if the conservatory work was done by a builder.

Chino

DoaM wrote: »

I'd never take the risk an unfused spur can pose).

I'm intrigued - what risk does installing an unfused spurred socket present?

DoaM

Chino wrote: »

I'm intrigued - what risk does installing an unfused spurred socket present?

If the regs recommend them to be fused, who am I to argue? And think about it ... anything you plug into a socket on a ring, what you've plugged in is a spur, and the plug for that device (spur) is fused.

Also, a spur should be 13A max rated (I believe) ... an unfused spur would carry the current rating of the main fuse for the ring, so a short at the spur could present a higher risk of fire.

onomatopoeia99

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

All electrical work requires certification, either a Minor Works Certificate or a Design Installation and Test certificate.

When I do non-notifiable electrical work in my home, I do not issue myself with a "Minor Works Certificate".

Am I supposed to certify to myself that I've done it properly then?